More from The Gift that Keeps On Giving

Members of the Southern Heritage Preservation Group claim that they are always on the alert against both racists and bigots and people who they believe link the SHPG to racism and bigotry.  As member Carl W. Roden says, “You should know that there is a zero-tolerance policy towards racists on this page.”  You can see that here:

So it came as some surprise to me when I came across the following exchange at SHPG:

“My friend,” eh, Mr. Roden?  Well, let’s recall what Hunter Wallace at Occidental Dissent has written recently on his blog.  There’s this

The War Between the States must be remembered as a war that was also lost by the average Northern White man who has been morally and politically disarmed by egalitarian anti-racist fanatics and now lies prostrate before the Black Undertow in Northern cities like Detroit, Chicago, and Philadelphia.

… and this

As the formerly prosperous plantations and cities fall into ruin and neglect and are overwhelmed by the darkness of African ignorance and tropical vegetation, the Yankee is left standing over the ruins of civilization, beating his chest with pious lectures about “progress” and the wickedness of “racism,” as reality stands as an irrefutable monument to the genius of segregation and the folly of universal equality.

… and more such throughout his blog.

Now, mind you, Mr. Roden has declared that he has a “zero-tolerance” policy toward racism.  Note also that he enjoys a lot of support from his colleagues in the SHPG, where he’s an officer.  So I guess this sort of thinking is acceptable with the SHPG, and that its members don’t recognize as racist what Mr. Wallace, Mr. Roden’s “friend,” says.

Indeed, we know that other people at SHPG have recently expressed unhappiness with the impact of desegregation.  Then again, apparently no one at the SHPG finds John C. Hall, Jr.’s obsession with ethnicity and his “seed” unacceptable, either.

I’ll let you decide what this all says about the SHPG’s stance toward racism and bigotry.

12 thoughts on “More from The Gift that Keeps On Giving

  1. Shao Ping January 3, 2012 / 1:30 pm

    Actually, aren’t you ignoring the missing comma? Mr. Roden is not claiming friendship with Mr. Wallace but claiming that things that show the South and the Confederate soldier in a good like are rarely his friend. He has apparently repudiated all pro-Southern views and is now a northern Unionist. 😛

    • Shao Ping January 3, 2012 / 1:31 pm

      like=light. I should know better than to critique someone’s grammar.

    • Brooks D. Simpson January 3, 2012 / 1:35 pm

      Well, that is another way of viewing it. But, as we all know, folks at the SHPG often claim that they really didn’t say what they said. This may be the case when it comes to that “zero-tolerance” policy.

  2. Eric A. Jacobson January 3, 2012 / 2:27 pm

    Excuse me while I book my tickets to Boise, Idaho so that I can make my annual drive up to Coeur d’Alene.

    • Brooks D. Simpson January 3, 2012 / 5:39 pm

      Watch out for DarthRoden … because, apparently, this fellow from South Carolina has had “personal dealings” with a young Georgia woman who posts from his ISP …

      “I read your stuff on Carl Roden and I have some really interesting details about Mr. Roden from personal dealings I have had. I think you should know what you’re dealing with exactly. Believe me when I say he’s not somebody you want to just look the other way with. In fact I think he may be among the most radical and dangerous folks on that site you mentioned. I went there and—wow its pretty far out there.”

      Right, “Amanda”?

      “Amanda” is 15; Carl is more than twice her age. For more on “Amanda” and Carl’s “relationship,” see here.

  3. Andy Hall January 5, 2012 / 9:28 am

    Looks like Hunter Wallace, who claims to have abandoned the League of the South years ago for its “political correctness,” its adoption of the “heritage-not-hate approach” to Southern history, and its claims that the LoS does not have a racialist agenda, is once again smitten..

    Ah, young love. . . .

    • Brooks D. Simpson January 5, 2012 / 12:01 pm

      It’s only a matter of time before Connie Chastain embraces Hunter Wallace as a “very, *very* good acquaintance” (wink, wink). After all, Carl Roden already has.

  4. Eric Jacobson January 5, 2012 / 12:20 pm

    Well I guess Hunter Wallace won’t be engaging in any needless conversations about secession or Lincoln. He obviously has other interests:

    “I think refighting the Civil War is a stupid idea. We should focus on creating a White ethnostate. If we create one in the South, that would be ideal. If we create one in the Northwest, I might consider relocating there. Hell, if we created a White ethnostate in Vermont, I would be all for it. Whatever it takes to get us out from underneath the boot of Washington.”

    • Kevin January 5, 2012 / 3:17 pm

      It is interesting that Roden was so quick to accuse you of being associated with the Aryan Nation, but he seems to have nothing but the kindest things to say about HW. That about sums it up.

    • theravenspoke January 5, 2012 / 5:14 pm

      IIRC, the Census Bureau reports Vermont as one of the three whitest states (with West Virginia and Maine), approx. 95% white. So Vermont is a “white state”. I have no idea what “ethnostate” is supposed to mean, but it’s clear Hunter Wallace is a dumbass.

    • Brooks D. Simpson January 7, 2012 / 10:42 am

      Mr. Wallace is for white supremacy, pure and simple, which is why he cares little for the claims of a multicultural Confederacy or assertions about black Confederates. At some point the people of the SHPG will see this, and understand that to embrace someone with his racial attitudes, no matter how much some members may like what he says on various matters, is to taint the whole group. The SHPG is in denial about issues of race and racism in southern history, especially the Confederate experience, as well as southern identity; Wallace openly espouses white supremacy. Some members of the SHPG want southern independence; Wallace wants his whites-only state, regardless of where it’s placed. So, for all the overlapping here, there are differences.

  5. Eric A. Jacobson January 5, 2012 / 3:52 pm

    I can only chuckle. If they only knew the details of some of the nasty personal attacks that have come my way from a couple clowns in the SCV about….you guessed it, the battle flag. Those kinds of e-mails and calls just give you that warm and fuzzy feeling…..

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