Occidental Dissent Answers Connie Chastain

This makes for very interesting reading.

By the way, Mr. Wallace displays a Confederate Battle Flag on his blog.  It is my understanding that the people such as those who populate the gift that keeps on giving are determined to protest the appropriation of that flag by white supremacist groups.  So where’s the protest?  Does the lack of protest support Ms. Chastain’s argument about the ineffectiveness of the group?  Or does it document its lack of sincerity, especially in light of the willingness of members of the group to attack other people with whom they disagree?

Pass the popcorn, please.


49 thoughts on “Occidental Dissent Answers Connie Chastain

    • Brooks D. Simpson January 17, 2012 / 3:57 pm

      So does Ms. Chastain. Meanwhile, someone directed me to her Facebook page. It’s a continuation of more of the same of her rants against various folks, with the usual chorus participants.

      Ms. Chastain declares: “Once again, Simpson is seeing, or purporting to see, similarities between people and the ideas they hold, for the purpose of guilt-by-association tar-smearing, while ignoring the differences, which are what’s truly important.”

      I love how she attributes motives to me. In fact, I was giving her the opportunity to distance herself from Mr. Wallace. Her major effort along this line was to note that Mr. Wallace roots for Auburn while she roots for Alabama.

      (I’d love to know whether Mr. Wallace ever expressed himself about Cam Newton.)

      She does not go into detail on where she disagrees with Mr. Wallace about southern heritage. I wonder why she chose not to do that.

      • Rob Baker January 17, 2012 / 8:37 pm

        Not sure why she refuses to do that. I attempted that explanation tonight.

        • Brooks D. Simpson January 17, 2012 / 8:49 pm

          I understand she doesn’t read very carefully. I noted that she did not go into detail on where she disagreed with Mr. Wallace on southern heritage. She said she disagreed with him about race, without indicating where and why she disagreed. After all, if she claims I’m tarring her with the racist brush by drawing attention to Hunter Wallace’s post answering her query, then why doesn’t she call Mr. Wallace’s views racist? There’s no hint as to the nature of the disagreement. Maybe she thinks Mr. Wallace doesn’t go far enough. Who knows?

          Of course it was Mr. Wallace who drew attention to her, but she doesn’t seem offended, nor does she go into great detail on where and why she disagrees with him.

          Perhaps she agrees with her friend Mr. Hall about race and religion. Perhaps she’s simply not very articulate on such matters. She just seems angry all the time. But now she has a Facebook group as well as a website with which to denounce me. Whatever makes her happy, I guess.

          • Rob Baker January 17, 2012 / 9:03 pm

            It’s quite interesting the comments that are made in retaliation in her group.

          • Brooks D. Simpson January 17, 2012 / 9:07 pm

            There are signs of anger and insecurity displayed by the usual suspects. Given that Carl W. Roden and John C. Hall, Jr. have expressed support for Hunter Wallace’s views, perhaps Ms. Chastain is afraid she’ll lose her fans if she denounces Wallace’s racial views. She can’t very well resign from her own group.

      • Drew January 18, 2012 / 6:44 am

        Southern heritage? Hmm, if that’s the case, no teaching anything about it or the Civil War in Tucson schools anymore, right?

  1. Eric Wittenberg January 17, 2012 / 9:22 am

    I suppose the guy deserves a bit of credit for being honest and upfront about his racism and anti-Semitism, but I find it exceedingly difficult to take seriously anything said by anyone spouting such hatred. Too bad he had to taint an otherwise worthy explanation by being such a hater.

    • Margaret Blough January 17, 2012 / 9:47 pm

      Eric-We’re dealing with someone who is citing, with a straight face, an incestuous child molester on the subject of honor.

    • Uncle Pete January 19, 2012 / 12:02 am

      “racism and anti-Semitism”

      In your opinion he is a racism and is anti-Semitic. You are just saying that because he is White. Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.

      “spouting such hatred”

      In your opinion he is spouting hatred. You are just saying that because he is White. Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.

      “by being such a hater”

      In your opinion he is a hater. You are just saying that because he is White. Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.

  2. Kevin January 17, 2012 / 12:32 pm

    All I know the SHPG page totally sucks without Connie. Would anyone like to join me to start a petition to reinstate her as an officer?

    • Brooks D. Simpson January 17, 2012 / 4:04 pm

      I found her case about the powerlessness of the SHPG to get anything done powerful. I also found her admission that her own work is insignificant to be revealing, especially since she persists in it.

      • Kevin January 17, 2012 / 5:47 pm

        Well, today someone on the page claimed that upwards of 300,000 blacks served in the Confederate army. CC leaves and everything goes downhill. 🙂

        • Brooks D. Simpson January 17, 2012 / 7:50 pm

          I gather Connie believes I hate her. I wouldn’t waste the energy on such an intense emotion. I do find her amusing most of the time, and a bit bitter and ugly some of the time, as I’ve said before. I don’t know why she simply can’t accept that. Maybe it’s important for her to believe I hate her. Why that is I have no idea. I wouldn’t waste time trying to figure out what she thinks of me, and frankly, I don’t care.

          Leave it to John C. Hall, Jr. to be more specific about what he thinks of Hunter Wallace’s attitudes:

          “There is some truth to what he says…not all blacks are bad just as one of my clients who is Jewish is not bad…..collectively there are elements that deserve the label…that is not my style as he is a lot younger than I.”

          Mr. Hall is also the gift that keeps on giving.

  3. Mark January 17, 2012 / 12:44 pm

    >> The “War Against the South” is really just one identifiable front in the wider culture war. The same people . . . are waging . . . the “War Against Christianity” and the “War Against Western Civilization” . . .

    This is rich. These are the folks always explicitly denouncing the principle of equality as a limited ideal that is deeply embedded in Western culture and Christianity. Both went corrupt you see. Somehow they escaped the gravitational pull of this corruption. Funny how that works. Anyhow, that is why they are the chosen ones who can tell us how things should be. It’s basic cultism 101.

  4. Corey Meyer January 17, 2012 / 1:22 pm

    I will have to wait until I get home. The filter here where I work (I am a teacher) won’t allow OD to come up…claims it deals with intolerance and hate. Go figure.

    • Corey Meyer January 17, 2012 / 5:58 pm

      I also notice that SNN has a podcast interview with Hunter Wallace. I have not listened to it, but I think it speaks volumes that SNN/Michael Cushman is so enthralled by this guy to do a podcast with him and Connie links to SNN…I see it as a flat out endorsement of the rhetoric put forth on OD.

  5. stonelifter January 17, 2012 / 11:03 pm

    not to far from me is a town called Sanford. It was a decent, small Southern town. The type of place where your kids where safe, and your doors unlocked.

    then the mexicans showed up. Now that town’s police department has a narcotics squad and a gang squad to deal with the problems the mexicans brought with them.

    to be more blunt, when the town was all White, it was safe, quite and peaceful. Now it’s full of mexicans and no longer safe, quite or peaceful.

    Why should we want more mexicans or more towns like Sanford in the South?

    • Uncle Pete January 19, 2012 / 12:03 am

      Anti-Whites say there should be no White Countries ?
      Anti-Whites say there should be no White Towns ?
      Anti-Whites say there should be no White Neighborhoods ?
      Anti-Whites say there should be no White Schools?
      Anti-Whites say there should be no White Classes ?
      Anti-Whites say there should be no White Sports ?
      Anti-Whites say there should be no White Anything ?
      Anti-Whites say there should be no Whites
      Anti racism is a code word for anti White.

    • martin January 19, 2012 / 5:45 am

      Because they do the jobs that your kids are to lazy to do?

  6. mindweapon January 18, 2012 / 4:36 am


    The “racist” label is quite simply losing it’s power over White people in the face of racial reality. As the US becomes more integrated and more multicultural, Whites will become more racist, and therefore less susceptible to special pleadings and moral grandstanding.

    Some of you find OD shocking. Get used to it. The multicult is a big fat lie that is shoved down our throats.

    Have you ever noticed that newspaper articles about black on white murders are dominated by the White nationalist viewpoint? Our numbers are quietly growing. Because we can lose what remaining corporate jobs we have for being a “racist,” those who have gotten sick of the multicult have to keep their mouths shut. So there are many many more of us, than you would think from following mass media.

    The mass media shows a manufactured consensus that the majority do not in fact share. Liberals are generally people who are able to consume the mass media consensus without vomiting. Many such people are able to make a living “being liberals” without actually having to work — such as Establishment bloggers, civil rights lawyers, affirmative action officers, diversity coordinators, so-called “journalists,” refugee industry “non-profit” companies, and the like. These are the Enforcers of the multicult. It all comes back to the money — it’s easier to be a traitor than to work for a living.

    However, the whole “public condemnation” thing is leveraged by the mass media and enforced by the Multicult bureaucrat class is failing. The money is running out for it, and people are sick of it. Ten years from now, being a “racist” won’t even be controversial.

    • Uncle Pete January 19, 2012 / 12:04 am

      “The “racist” label is quite simply losing it’s power over White people in the face of racial reality.”

      Everyone knows that Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.

      No one is Demanding the Middle East be flooded with Non-Arabs and are encouraging everyone to “mix in”.

      No one is Demanding Africa or Asia be flooded with Non-Africans or Non-Asians and are encouraging everyone to “mix in”.

      “Anti-racists” Demand massive immigration and forced integration for all White countries and only White countries.

      This “assimilation” or blending is nothing more than an attempt to wipe out my race, the White race. It is genocide.

      They aren’t anti-racists, they’re anti-White.

  7. Bob Pollock January 18, 2012 / 8:48 am

    If the views expressed by “stonelifter” and “mindweapon” are so common and widely accepted as “mindweapon” claims then why are they afraid to use own names?

    • stonelifter January 18, 2012 / 10:17 am

      You have failed to answer my questions. Don’t shift arguments, tell me why I should want more towns to suffer the fate of Sanford? Why should I want mexicans in the South?

      • Leonard Lanier January 22, 2012 / 9:42 pm

        Is that Sanford, AL, Sanford, FL or Sanford, NC? If you want to be taken seriously, you need to provide specifics not just hysterics.

    • Uncle Pete January 19, 2012 / 12:11 am

      Bob Pollock <— Anti-White, says
      "then why are they afraid to use own names?"

      Anti-Whites are letting the truth out folks, so listen up:

      Anti-White Bob, is saying White people that disagree with their anti-White agenda, have real reason to fear.

      There are Pro White Dissidents that are persecuted by anti-Whites like Bob.

      Anti-Whites like Bob, feel safe using their real names, because they represent the Anti-White Establishment.

      Radicals for the Establishment these anti-Whites are. It takes no courage at all to be them.

      Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.

  8. Bob Pollock January 18, 2012 / 8:50 am

    Oops, need another cup of coffee. Missed “their” own names.

    • Roger E Watson January 18, 2012 / 12:26 pm

      You won’t see their real names Bob because they have no guts ! If the term “racist” does fade away, “hater” will not. That is what these low-lifes are, haters. In my next post, I’ll tell you how I really feel 😉

      • Uncle Pete January 18, 2012 / 11:59 pm

        Roger E Watson, <— Anti-White

        You won't see their names, because they are Pro White Dissidents and YOU are a thug representing the anti-White establishment.

        "That is what these low-lifes are, haters"

        No one is flooding Africa with Non Africans and telling them… "That is what you low-lifes are, haters" …we are going to create a blended humanity in ONLY Africa.

        No one is flooding Japan with non-Japanese and telling them… "That is what you low-lifes are, haters" …we are going to create a blended humanity in ONLY Japan.

        Only White countries are doing this, only Anti-Whites like you are pushing it. Its GeNOcide.

        Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.

        • Shao Ping January 19, 2012 / 10:37 am

          Can’t you at least be intelligent in your racism?* Racism is considered a problem in Japan, especially in how they treat their Chinese and Korean residents but also in crude beliefs about the purity of the Japanese race, and prominent politicians regularly have to apologize for making racist statements (e.g. the mayor of Tokyo, Shintaro Ishihara).

          And racial tensions also exists in Africa, e.g. between native Africans and Chinese immigrants.

          *Probably not, since then you would not be racist.

  9. mindweapon January 18, 2012 / 3:52 pm

    I can answer that one. Because anyone who has politically incorrect opinions and has to keep a job effectively does not have free speech. The southern poverty law center uses mafia style racketeering tactics, calling the employers of politically incorrect bloggers and saying, “I’m a journalist doing a story on neo-nazis and I would like to ask you a few questions about your employee, Joe Smith.” Of coures, it’s not about some “story,” it’s about destroying someone’s livelihood.

    I had a newspaper reporter once go knocking on all my neighbors’ doors and pointing to the apartment building i lived in and asking, “do you know a neo-nazi lives there.”

    Never mind that I never identified with Nazis or called myself that. They put a label on you and tell everyone that you are such and such a thing. It’s not unlike the Salem witch trials, or the Red Scare — although the Red Scare had some ground in reality. The Communists were indeed collaborating with the enemy. We have no nation-state enemy to collaborate with, we are just dissidents against the Zionist control of foreign policy, and an anti-white domestic policy.

    I can assure you that if I met any one of you in person, I’d gladly share my views with you.

    • Roger E Watson January 18, 2012 / 4:51 pm

      “Some of you find OD shocking. Get used to it. The multicult is a big fat lie that is shoved down our throats.”

      You agree with the OD positions. You cannot deny that you are a racist and a hater.

      “…., or the Red Scare — although the Red Scare had some ground in reality.”

      Yes, I can see quite clearly how Joe McCarthy would be one of your heroes ! 🙂

      • Larry Sullivan January 18, 2012 / 10:38 pm

        Racist is a word anti-whites use to bully any White person who stands up for themselves or their people. You might say you’re an anti-racist, but what you are is anti-white. Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-white.

      • Uncle Pete January 18, 2012 / 11:53 pm

        In your opinion he is a racist and a hater. You are just saying that because he is White.

        Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White

  10. Neil Hamilton January 18, 2012 / 4:16 pm

    mindweapon and stonelifter,

    So you have no hope, no future, no desire, than to retreat to a time past where you both feel safer, more secure and with less fear of change?

    No need to meet in person, mindweapon, you and stonelifter have made yourselfs very clear in your fears and your wants.


    • Brooks D. Simpson January 18, 2012 / 4:38 pm

      I also doubt that many people who identify themselves with Confederate heritage share the sentiments of these two unnamed posters. They do their cause no good by remaining silent or coy at a time like this.

    • mindweapon January 18, 2012 / 8:04 pm


      I am very much a futurist. I am a student of science and technology, and I correspond with people who are doing research in reproductive eugenics in Russia.

      With the advances in Biotechnology and genetics, the Russian scientists will soon be able to mass produce Nordic White babies with 160 IQ’s. Also, the liberal gene has been isolated. These children will not be liberals. They will feel no compassion towards racial aliens or traitors.

      • Shao Ping January 18, 2012 / 10:53 pm

        Here’s hoping they’ve moved past Lysenkoism.

        But somewhat seriously, if you plan to make outrageous claims, you should at least provide a link or two to convince those of us who think you are not a crank like most self-proclaimed futurists. Though I am amused by imagining that you are being fleeced by Russian eugenists employing a variant of the Nigerian business man letter: “We only need $5000 to complete our research on the liberal gene but the government refuses to continue to fund us. Please send us what you can so that we can produce the baby of tomorrow, today!.”

        Also apart from the fact that claims linking social behavior to genes are dubious (not because there are not links, but because they are hard to discover and genes are presumably one factor among many that determine social behavior), you might want to read the actual scientific report occasionally. News agencies generally sensationalize science, making it easy for the unwary to misunderstand it and claim that there is something like, say, a liberal gene.

      • Corey Meyer January 19, 2012 / 7:18 am

        Wow…Hitler would be proud…and that is not a good thing.

        • mindweapon January 19, 2012 / 11:37 am

          No, I don’t send any money to them. I am married to a Russian woman and I know the clinic through her relatives. I have been to Russia, speak the language, and learned about eugenics, White nationalism, and World War II revisionism in Russia. In Red Square you can buy all kinds of nationalist literature such as Sevodnya and Zavtra and Sokol’ Zhirinovskovo, as well as historic literature from the WWII era. Vladimir Zhirinovsky is the powerful leader of the Liberal Democrats, who control a plurality in the Duma and they believe in eugenics and fund it. I met a lot of Russians who said that Russia fought on the wrong side of WWII.

          Here we have a saying, “Only the ___ won World War Two.” (Hint, it rhymes).

          Russians are not as brainwashed or provincial as Americans. Here in the US we have no idea about the rest of the world, and we believe here that the rest of the world thinks we are just wonderful. Newsflash — Russians hate America, because the Tribe of Thieves with American passports such as Jeffrey Sachs helped the Tribe of Thieves with Russian passports loot Russia — people like Berezovsky, Deripaska (who is BFF with Nat Rothschild), Khordokovsky (whose shares of Yukos passed to Jacob Rothschild when he was arrested). Russians know this; Americans don’t, even though we have been looted as surely as Russia has, by the same Tribe of Thieves:


          America is a joke to the rest of the world, because we let a tribe of carnies and crooks and pornographers control us with sob stories and biblical myths. We send our young men and women to die in the deserts of the Middle East at the behest and for the benefit and profit of the Tribe of Thieves.

      • Neil Hamilton January 19, 2012 / 1:49 pm


        You are not a futurist, but long for a past that is long gone. And by no means are you a student of science but a student of Frankinstien. It is I who have no compassion towards such fear and ignorance.

        PS My apologies, Professor Simpson, for taking the confrontational road with “these people.” It will not hhappen again.

  11. Mark January 18, 2012 / 9:22 pm

    mindweapon, you don’t even know what IQ is. The basis of IQ theory is false, and so no advance will ever be able to make high IQ *test scores* without also providing the kind of environment to grow up in that produces people with a high degree of proficiency on standardized tests of the relevant type. But you can always advocate for eugenics anyway, and I’m sure you will. Not clear to me that you’d survive your own eugenics screening program if you had to.

    • mindweapon January 19, 2012 / 5:48 am

      The US Army has used IQ tests (the ASVAB nowadays) since the 1920’s and it works for them. They found that IQ is predictive for performance, whether for a West Point cadet or a diesel mechanic.

      Not even the Science* for the People types like Lewontin or Gould or Rose believe that there’s no such thing as IQ, or that it’s “all environment.”

      I guess you think that you could take any kid from anywhere and turn him or her into a rocket scientist? That intelligence is totally, 100% teachable and of environment? Heck, I took a Psychology 101 class in college a few years ago, and even the textbook and the teacher said that heredity is a big part of intelligence. They may gloss over racial differences in intelligence, or claim that these differences aren’t actually real or something, but if you deny the existence of heritable intelligence then you are to the left of even hard core Marxist anti-racist biology deniers like Gould and Lewontin.

      Race is akin to breed in dogs. So since breed doesn’t matter, why don’t you go run the Iditarod dog sled race with a team of poodles.

      Or for that matter, I’d love to see what would happen if you were presented with a choice — to get on a German airline like Lufthansa on an Airbus 380, maintained by German mechanics and flown by blond, blue eyed Germans; or get on an Airbus 380 maintained and flown by Nigerians. I’m betting that when your life depends on it, you’ll be a racist.

  12. stonelifter January 19, 2012 / 12:40 am

    and still y’all dance around the topic, fail to raise to the challenge and my question remains unanswered

    doesn’t that alone prove how worthless diversity is?

    • Shao Ping January 19, 2012 / 11:00 am

      I kind of feel dirty for engaging such racism when there are better things to do (e.g. learning about they Corker/Beard election), but one of the reason I did not reply was because an unconfirmable anecdote is not evidence. To counter with another, more confirmable anecdote: I live in Hawaii and cannot imagine there not being diversity here. I walk down the street and hear Cantonese, Mandarin, Spanish, and gosh knows what other languages. Diversity is a major part of why living in Hawaii is wonderful.

      As for the value of diversity, that is easy. Read about the European Renaissance, the Tang dynasty, ancient Greece, or American history (I could go on, but why bother?). Diversity was essential to all four.

  13. stonelifter January 19, 2012 / 12:43 am

    yep, just found the name calling post. Won’t or cannot stand on the issue so insult your opposition

  14. Jefferson Moon January 19, 2012 / 10:56 am

    “No one is Demanding the Middle East be flooded with Non-Arabs and are encouraging everyone to “mix in”.”
    Or flooded with Christians,good question….

  15. Jefferson Moon January 19, 2012 / 12:11 pm

    “value of diversity”
    Diversity didn’t turn out very good for the American Indians or native Hawaiians for that matter..

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out /  Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )


Connecting to %s