Trouble In Flagger Land?

Methinks the Virginia Flagger movement is … flagging. That’s right. For a movement that’s changing hearts and minds, it’s unclear whether any are being changed at all, or if the change might be in another direction (surely in many cases the changes don’t seem durable or effective).

Take, for example, last Sunday, when a grand total of two Flaggers spent the day in Lexington, Virginia, with one taking pictures of the other.  That’s not exactly a growth industry.

Or take the recent discussions over at the gift that keeps on giving.  Seems folks there are divided over several things.  Not all the members of the group have signed a petition to have the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts display a Confederate flag at Pelham Chapel, despite repeated call for people to show their southern pride by doing so.  That suggests the Flaggers aren’t making headway among an audience that would seem favorably disposed to their message.  Some folks are not sure which flag to display, or where it might be displayed (outside the chapel?  inside the chapel?).  Some folks have charged that the VMFA is in violation of state law by not displaying the flag, but no one’s initiated legal action, and you think that if people really wanted to get something done, they’d do that. Surely they have the individuals and resources at hand to do something … if they’re right about the law.  Otherwise one would have to wonder why all this talk and demonstration results in no action.

Maybe that’s because it wouldn’t make for a good video.  :)

7 thoughts on “Trouble In Flagger Land?

  1. Andy Hall August 9, 2012 / 9:21 am

    Some folks have charges that the VMFA is in violation of state law by not displaying the flag, but no one’s initiated legal action, and you think that if people really wanted to get something done, they’d do that. Surely they have the individuals and resources at hand to do something … if they’re right about the law.

    There seems to be little anger or vitriol directed at the local SCV camp, that agreed to the lease terms with the VMFA that the Flaggers now find so untenable. I suspect you’re not going to see any lawsuit against the VMFA because that organization is on solid ground, and has a properly-executed lease to back them up. It’s really a case of buyer’s remorse; the local camp signed a lease agreeing to terms they now regret, and the months-long temper tantrum known as the Flagging movement is the result.

    What’s unfortunate is that the SCV camp that agreed to the lease gets a pass in this, while the UDC, which is not actually a party to any of that, and has no direct involvement in the case at all, comes in for all the full-spittle-flecked outrage the Flaggers can muster, simply because they refuse to have any part of this foolishness.

    • Brooks D. Simpson August 9, 2012 / 7:48 pm

      Both the Flaggers and the SHPG take pot shots at the SCV and the UDC all the time, so their willingness to spare the local SCV camp … the very one that made the crucial concession … is interesting. I note that the UDC in Virginia has done much more to preserve Confederate heritage and history in Virginia than the Flaggers or the SHPG have … including flag preservation.

      Then again, I think fewer and fewer people are taking the Flaggers seriously, and it appears their own numbers have dwindled in the summer heat. Were the Flaggers to take legal action, one might take them somewhat more seriously, but their failure to do so even as they squawk about illegal action suggests that the movement is much more for show (and publicity for Ms. Hathaway) than it is for substance. It’s manufactured protest inspired by manufactured outrage undertaken by people who really don’t have any intention to do anything. But at least they have fun at their social functions.

  2. Betty F. Giragosian August 9, 2012 / 7:22 pm

    Your last paragraph hits the nail on the head, re the treatment of the UDC by these people.
    It will not be forgotten by many of us.

    • Brooks D. Simpson August 10, 2012 / 2:02 pm

      So it would seem from this comment left at the gift that keeps on giving:

      I have seen a LOT of posts where the flaggers are bashing the UDC Calling people names, and all sorts of things. As an organization, the UDC must follow it’s rules not the whims of what outside people think. From what I have seen online, at this point, I don’t have a high opinion of the flaggers. Sorry, folks, but from their comments on facebook and elsewhere, name calling and general in your face, it’s my right, they seem more like a radical hate group not a educational group. They want to rip apart what so many have worked for years to accomplish. This is my opinion you are free to disagree, but please do so kindly.

  3. Dave Tatum August 13, 2012 / 2:26 pm

    Well old Tatertot Tatum (I figgure that was you) sticks with the Flaggers. I have asked questions of those who I support.
    It’s kinda the way we do things. “If ya ain’t sure ask!”
    Now then “Dixie Bashin” the Blog, YOU got any idea who is behind it ? After all the Coward refuses to use his name!

    Shame that the Coward hides and throws stones.

    Dave Tatum

    • Brooks D. Simpson August 13, 2012 / 2:32 pm

      Can’t help you there, David.

      But I guess you think that “Joseph Brevard Kershaw” is a coward, too. Otherwise you would be a hypocrite.

      Nice chatting with you.

      • Dave Tatum August 13, 2012 / 3:30 pm

        The pleasure is all yours !

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