Flags Across Virginia

As this radio report reveals, the Virginia Flaggers now believe that their project to erect a flag pole south of Richmond along I-95 to fly the Confederate navy jack will be but the first of several such flags across the Old Dominion.

It’s another Flaggers tumble, because what was once simply a Richmond issue is now a Virginia issue. You would think that they would get one flag up first. Watch as opposition builds.

Meanwhile, we can now add death threats to vandalism and terrorism.

 

Connie Chastain Is Right

I bet you never thought you would see that post heading.

Over at her little blog, which Connie has rendered as “Backsass” and “Backass” (the second rendering coming in her frequent visits to the comments section of various articles last week), she has a practice of writing lengthy, long-winded posts about people she does not like, and, as you might imagine, I’m a special target. Some people who have discovered her blog have circulated it widely to those people who want a better understanding of the person who manages the blog of the Virginia Flaggers, and, to channel Kevin Levin, I couldn’t be more pleased at the response. Sometimes you have to see something to believe it.

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A Letter from General Grant: August 23, 1863

One of the keys to understanding the relationship between Abraham Lincoln and Ulysses S. Grant is to understand Grant’s ability to work with Lincoln, as the following letter suggests.

Cairo Illinois

August 23d 1863.

Sir:

Your letter of the 9th inst. reached me at Vicksburg just as I was about starting for this place. Your letter of the 13th of July was also duly received.

After the fall of Vicksburg I did incline very much to an immediate move on Mobile. I believed then the place could be taken with but little effort, and with the rivers debouching there, in our possession, we would have such a base to opperate from on the very center of the Confederacy as would make them abandon entirely the states bound West by the Miss. I see however the importance of a movement into Texas just at this time.

I have reinforced Gen. Banks with the 13th Army corps comprising ten Brigades of Infantry with a full proportion of Artillery.

I have given the subject of arming the negro my hearty support. This, with the emancipation of the negro, is the heavyest blow yet given the Confederacy. The South care a great deal about it and profess to be very angry. But they were united in their action before and with the negro under subjection could spare their entire white population for the field. Now they complain that nothing can be got out of their negroes.

There has been great difficulty in getting able bodied negroes to fill up the colored regiments in consequence of the rebel cavalry runing off all that class to Georgia and Texas. This is especially the case for a distance of fifteen or twenty miles on each side of the river. I am now however sending two expeditions into Louisiana, one from Natchez to Harrisonburg and one from Goodrich’s Landing to Monroe, that I expect will bring back a large number. I have ordered recruiting officers to accompany these expeditions. I am also moving a Brigade of Cavalry from Tennessee to Vicksburg which will enable me to move troops to a greater distance into the interior and will facilitate materially the recruiting service.

Gen. Thomas is now with me and you may rely on it I will give him all the aid in my power. I would do this whether the arming the negro seemed to me a wise policy or not, because it is an order that I am bound to obey and do not feel that in my position I have a right to question any policy of the Government. In this particular instance there is no objection however to my expressing an honest conviction. That is, by arming the negro we have added a powerful ally. They will make good soldiers and taking them from the enemy weaken him in the same proportion they strengthen us. I am therefore most decidedly in favor of pushing this policy to the enlistment of a force sufficient to hold all the South falling into our hands and to aid in capturing more.

Thanking you very kindly for the great favors you have ever shown me I remain, very truly and respectfully

your obt. svt.

U. S. Grant

Maj. Gen.

Note: the “Gen. Thomas” mentioned here is Lorenzo Thomas, not the Rock of Chickamauga.

Lincoln would find this letter very useful. For the moment, however, we see a general deferring to the president on a matter of what to do next because of political priorities, and someone who artfully supports administration policy on enlisting black soldiers, an issue on which some people had once expressed doubts about Grant’s position.

 

The Flagger Imagination

First, it was a warning about “vandalism.” Now, it’s a warning about terrorism:

You know what worries me the most about the level of vicious hatred individual Leftist haters express on postings of these types of articles lately?

I worry that sooner or later some lone nut or two, possibly inspired by the anti-Confederate flag rhetoric of these people will – in the name of “tolerance” and “patriotism” of course – commit some heinous act of violence of the type that took place in Aurora, CO or recently in Boston, MA. 

Its all too easy for me to envision someone planting a pressure cooker or worse pulling an AK-47 on a Veteran’s Day Parade that features Confederate re-enactors. 

The Left has recently shown these last couple of years they can no longer reasonably control their crazies, assuming they are even trying.

Yup, really.

Roden's ravings

Ah, so the Flaggers’ “civil rights struggle” might be the target of terrorism. People who question the display of the Confederate battle flag are “the forces of reactionary hatred.”

What will they think of next?

The Fantasy World of Flagger Supporters

Here’s a sample of some of the comments responding to a story in the Richmond Times-Dispatch about the growing controversy over the plan of the Virginia Flaggers to raise a Confederate navy jack along I-95 south of Richmond:

Who are YOU to criticize the decisions of sons and grandsons of Revolutionary patriots who had built a New World out of NOTHING in the wilderness, the riches of which were envied by the North that wished to control it?

I believe that slaves had something to do with this, especially in the land south of the Potomac River. Then again, perhaps that’s why the Confederates wanted to protect slavery … because they knew that southern whites couldn’t do this on their own.

Before the South’s Subjugation we were a nation of Liberty …

Just ask Frederick Douglass.

The South seceded because they didn’t want stupid people looking to take from them telling them what they had to do.

After all, white southerners had been doing that for decades before secession, so they knew what it meant. See the Fugitive Slave Law of 1850. See the Gag Rule.

You see, … to people not brainwashed by revisionist, race-baiting exploitation of the subject of slavery, we understand how slavery is not necessarily race-based, nor a legal institution, nor meant to be permanent, nor limited to the South.

It just happened to be that way in the South in 1860.

This is most distressing. This conflict brings up the twin myths, first that there was a civil war, and also that it was over slavery. These two things just are not so.

At least this is the case in the alternative universe populated by Confederate Romantics.

The Confederate cause was resisting tyranny to do anything, and resist having one’s wealth (am not talking slavery) stolen from them and one’s land invaded.

Slaveholders resisting tyranny (because they wanted to continue practicing it) were certainly resisting having their wealth taken away … and they knew that the greatest wealth in property was in slaves.

You show your ignorance of the men and women of the South, who worked and shared constantly on the topic of how best to improve the status and welfare of the slaves. There were MANY programs tried – and with such good results, there were NO slave uprisings even with the men away at War. Further, the stories of slaves and free blacks who supported their families (yes, their families) are some of the most touching episodes.

Which is, of course, why the Confederate government treated black Union POWs as slaves conducting an insurrection and decreed that their white officers would be executed for that very reason. Slaves were so happy, I guess, that one is hard-pressed to explain why white southerners were so insistent about the Fugitive Slave Law. And, of course, things were so good between southern whites and blacks during the war that one wonders what happened during Reconstruction.

Yet there were MANY black Confederates at war with their masters and fighting alongside them, and tending the homesteads. Black men, free AND slave (for slaves often earned their own money) bought CSA bonds. The fact that the FACTS aren’t often discussed, and we are instead always presented with the lurid abolitionist tales as facts for all, detail not only that truth is being propagandized, but also that those who do not discuss things fairly are presenting their opinions as something to reason from. The very fact that those who pretend to be FOR good racial relations keep lying about things tells me all I need to know.

And just how did the Reconstruction KKK reward all these loyal black people? I guess white supremacist terrorism was all for the promotion of good race relations … as a white supremacist would define them.

It is a disgrace that a community action – the erection of this glorious monument – calls forth the “news” as presented.

Oh goodness … a “community action.” Right.

Many men fought but Lincoln offered slaves freedom which led to the Emancipation Proclamation. So much changed 147 years ago and many are trying hard to bring those days back. A flag was a symbol of a nation and the Confederate Flag is the symbol of a Confederate nation that was formed by immigrants from England and other countries that watched the South grow to be the richest in the World. As even Jackson said it was God who gave whites the slave to each as those blacks as the white man is superior to that dark race. Many said the slave was happy to serve and were taken care of for their work. For some nothing has changed in 147 years and the struggle to change history continues. But it is history and we learn from it but we can’t change it as it is to late.

How’s your headache from reading that? But at least the fellow’s honest: he wants to roll back the clock to when there was slavery, because he believes slavery was a good thing. I bet he’s not black.

That’s right to you its all about slavery. Well look at the facts 1. Blacks sold Blacks into slavery. 2. Whites were also enslaved but sold to different countries. 3. The slave trade was ran by the Muslims. 4. Since Blacks from Africa sold Blacks why do Blacks like the term African American. 6. These facts can be backed up can you offer a case against it based on fact, or are you only gone to show ignorance by bitching as a answer?

No hate or bigotry there.

Confederate flags and symbols appeared for decades with no hate and divisiveness in the vast majority of people. It is only in the last 30 years, since the war began to grind away all traces of the Confederacy from the Southern landscape, that divisiveness has occurred.

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Yes, “Backass” is the name of my blog.

Sounds appropriate. It’s your best side.