The Flaggers Resort to Intimidation: How Desperate Are They?

For a group of people who are convinced that nothing can be done to stop their latest project, the Virginia Flaggers sure seem to be frustrated … and scared. It certainly did not take them long to disregard their leader’s advice not to engage in “retaliatory” behavior. Perhaps the straw that broke the camel’s back was new evidence that the Flaggers’ association with Matthew Heimbach continues, contrary to previous claims, and that he’s been invited to their second anniversary picnic.

Remember this? Hathaway declared:

Some of the offers came by way of wanting to repay him and other Bloggers in like kind, by posting their information and encouraging others to do the same. I want to take this opportunity to express that I am adamant in not wanting ANYONE in our movement to ever do such a thing. Disagreeing with someone is one thing, and we have every right (a duty, even) to defend our honor, but publishing information that could very possibly affect one’s livelihood, and therefore their ability to care for their families and fulfill their obligations, is not something I want to EVER be a part of.

Well, you’re part of it now, Susan Hathaway, and you were a part of it before this month.

Let’s set aside the fact that Hathaway’s long-delayed plea for restraint came after an effort to shut down this blog by contacting my employer failed. Let’s set aside that it contained false statements. Let’s also set aside that the person Hathaway’s designated to do her “heavy hitting,” Connie Chastain, continues to post personal information, saying it is readily available, although by that criteria so is Hathaway’s employment. After all, Hathaway’s a public person through her own efforts. She just can deal with the same scrutiny that she applies to others.

Told you the Flaggers had overreached.

And now they want to threaten people who don’t agree with them:

Jennings threat

Harassment, anyone?

Hathaway declares:

Unlike our enemies, WE have truth, honor, and right on our side and do not need to sink to unethical and immoral tactics in order to gain victory.

Say again? So it’s ethical for your friend Grayson Jennings to post the address of one of your opponents? Tripp Lewis thinks so, and, as I recall, a court warned Tripp to stop bothering people at their place of work or at their homes.

As a Facebook Group, RVA Citizens Against the I-95 REBEL FLAG, reported:

Flagger Grayson Jennings had posted an image on this page with a package featuring Kristen Konate’s assumed home address. One wonders what the rationale is behind his post… most likely a scare tactic. Why would a grown man post an assumed address of a woman, who he has no ties with, does not know, on the Internet as one of his OWN posts? Intimidation – that’s the motive. Should she fear an army of rebels hiding behind hedges, ready to assassinate her due to her petition going national? Should anything happen to Kristen Konaté, we now know who to look at first, Grayson Jennings. You have single-handedly pushed the Virginia Flaggers into an enormous spotlight of negativity. Make certain that you get the correct address next time if you really want to “try” to scare someone.

Lewis responded several times, including the following:

Lewis threat x

In short, it is now an approved Flagger tactic to type in people’s names and come up with home addresses. One can do that with Ms. Hathaway, Mr. Jennings, and Mr. Lewis, too. So much for law suits, etc.

Or we can recall this statement from someone who used to work at the VMFA:

In my opinion, the possibility of productive dialogue faded by late 2011 with the intense escalation by the flaggers of rampant hostility toward the museum. This has resulted in a harassment campaign that, including the gauntlets of flags through which many visitors and staff must walk, spreading misinformation and name calling on site and online, bombarding employees and board members with nuisance e-mails and calls, (the group provided links to a web portal that facilitates anonymous accounts), and on occasion making calls to and protesting outside private residences. Such activities have been detrimental to “easy” resolution.

A Richmond court recognized this in dealing with Tripp Lewis. In the words of fellow Flagger Grayson Jennings, the court issued “an order that prevents him from going within 300 ft. of the residences of certain board members and officers of the VMFA.”

Now you know why that order was necessary. We know that Lewis is threatening to harass another blogger he doesn’t like …

Lewis threat two

… and that threat will be forwarded to the Richmond Police Department.

Susan Hathaway’s henchmen are doing her dirty work, just as her spokeswoman continues to do her “heavy hitting.”

I want to take this opportunity to express that I am adamant in not wanting ANYONE in our movement to ever do such a thing.

Sure, Susan.

Perhaps it’s time to remind the people at the VMFA of Flagger tactics, which seem all too much like those of Susan Hathaway’s hero, Nathan Bedford Forrest. Apparently the Flaggers haven’t learned a thing. As for Susan Hathaway, she’s trying to hide behind her friends, and we all know why.

So much for “restore the honor.”

PS: We all know that this post will provoke another screed (or two) from Connie Chastain. Shrug.

34 thoughts on “The Flaggers Resort to Intimidation: How Desperate Are They?

  1. Rob Baker September 14, 2013 / 5:11 am

    This just in, apparently Connie is defending her heritage from anti-racist bigots. Anti-racist? Interesting word choice.

    • Thelibertylamp September 14, 2013 / 7:21 am

      Rob, if you see anyone calling what we do as anti-racists “bigots” or “anti-white” that you’re dealing with someone with white supremacists ties/tendencies if not a full blown white supremacist. These are code words they all use.

      The silly harpy doesn’t even know to reword the lingo when she is spitting out her tirades.

      She also doesn’t seem to understand that society is on the side of people who are against Nazis, white supremacism and racism.

      Attacking people for fighting hate only makes them look even worse.

      • Lyle Smith September 14, 2013 / 9:20 am

        Harpy? Sounds like you hate the woman.

        • Thelibertylamp September 14, 2013 / 11:58 am

          It’s not about hate, it’s about the right adjective …

          • Lyle Smith September 14, 2013 / 12:22 pm

            Harpy is not an adjective man.

          • Thelibertylamp September 14, 2013 / 12:49 pm

            Lyle – but it describes her so well. Every time I try to venture to read her crazy blog rantings I have visions of those Harryhausen creatures from Clash of the Titans.

            Now, you might be one of her buddies, and that’s cool, and I wish you the best of luck with that.

            Peace!

          • Brooks D. Simpson September 14, 2013 / 1:15 pm

            Like Lyle, I don’t think it’s necessary to use that term. She’s reprehensible enough as it is.

          • Thelibertylamp September 14, 2013 / 1:22 pm

            And here I thought I was being imaginative, oh well, can’t please’m all.

            Besides, given the moron things she has been screaming about on her blog about our twitter account, which hasn’t been used in almost a year, I’d say it was a pretty well restrained comment.

            I will say though, we could not stop laughing at the histrionics in the content.

            These flaggers are flypaper for LULZ.

          • Thelibertylamp September 14, 2013 / 1:40 pm

            Brooks- Exactly! I rest my case…

      • E.A. Mayer September 14, 2013 / 1:10 pm

        She’s obviously been reading the so called “Mantra” by the Neo-Nazi Bob Whitaker and spread by their “swarm.” They think it’s clever and “indisputable,” but it really just proves that they are a racist making a racist argument based upon innuendo and lies. I suppose references to a “white genocide” will follow.
        Those sort of references are as telling as Heimbach’s continued presence. The flaggers and the Neo confederacy in general are just an attempt at slick and very subtle marketing of white supremacy. They can’t say what they really want to anymore without meeting the overwhelming revulsion from the great majority of Americans so they hide behind words like “heritage,” but it’s no accident that what they say comes from the likes of Stromfront pages. By comparing the posts made on Neo-Confederate boards or videos, and those on white supremacist pages, one can many times see little difference between the groups. Neo Confederates just put on a deeper candy coated shell, but crack that a little, and it’s just as rotten on the inside and many of the same bugs crawl (swarm) out.

        • Thelibertylamp September 14, 2013 / 1:31 pm

          E.A. Mayer- And how many of those candy coated Neo-Confederates are hiding under sock puppets and posting on Stormfront?

          Like the anti-immigration movement there are way more than just a few crossovers.

          Also, something tells me that one of the reason why Connie is really ranting out of control, is because some of what we are all doing causing cracks some of her candy coating.

    • John Tucker November 24, 2013 / 4:11 pm

      Susan Frise Hathaway
      This guy is EMPLOYED by the Greensboro News-Record. Need some Tar Heels to get in there and teach the Scalawag a thing or two… Are there plans for a flag/memorial in Reidsville? Need to find land and get one up ASAP!

      Daughters over Sons
      http://www.news-record.com
      As our editorial today states, this Court of Appeals decision should lay to rest the Confeder

  2. Betty Giragosian September 14, 2013 / 6:36 am

    I should think there is only one reason for posting someone’s address.

    • Dave Tatum September 14, 2013 / 9:51 am

      I wonder what that reason is ? I guess we could ask Corey Meyer, he posted my name, address, a picture of my home, and a google map to my home. gee I wonder what he did that for ?

      • Brooks D. Simpson September 14, 2013 / 12:55 pm

        He was wrong then, and your Flagger associates are wrong now. Seems Corey admitted he was wrong, whereas your associates Jennings, Isenhour, and Lewis feel quite justified about revealing home addresses. A court once directed Lewis not to engage in that sort of behavior, and yet he’s at it again. Repeat offender? Who’ll shoot the video this time?

        I’ll point out that their information is readily available, but I haven’t posted it. Same with Susan Hathaway’s home address. You won’t believe who provided that. But when your buddies post people’s place of work, as they have for a long time, it seems hypocritical to complain when I mention Hathaway’s place of work to suggest why she’s been so silent as of late. Should one now contact the VMFA and her employer to tell them what’s going on? That seems to be acceptable behavior to the Flaggers and their allies.

        You folks express outrage about the very behavior you’ve engaged in for years. Susan’s conducting her actions by proxy.

        By the way, David, calm down. Sending nasty follow-up posts whining that your post doesn’t appear immediately (no one’s does) demonstrates that you’re capable of a childish temper tantrum, and nothing more. And if you want to talk about cowardice, ask Susan Hathaway why she’s a coward when it comes to Matthew Heimbach.

        UPDATE: Of course, David lied to his blog readers and claimed I did not post his comment. As I don’t want to have him lie any more, I’ll handle his future comments appropriately.

        • Betty Giragosian September 15, 2013 / 11:31 am

          Brooks, where can one find this list of suspicious characters?

          • Brooks D. Simpson September 15, 2013 / 11:43 am

            Barry Isenhour, Grayson Jennings, and Tripp Lewis are rather well-known Flaggers.

          • Betty Giragosian September 15, 2013 / 2:01 pm

            Yes, they are–I was speaking of the list that they have compiled

      • Corey Meyer September 14, 2013 / 3:08 pm

        David, I inadvertently posted the address…which anyone can look up in online White pages…but the pictures showed where you live and where your monument was. That is all…you have posted pictures of it numerous times.

        Also at no time did I tell people to call or stop by… unlike Justin Burton and Mincey

    • Lisa Germaine September 14, 2013 / 10:11 am

      Yes, and UDC member Eve Davenport Holder and SCV Bill Hicks did the same thing to us in August, posting on our page wanting to give us an “A**Whoopin”. Rumor has it that one of the people used to further their agenda against Green Hill cemetery, and their mouthpiece, Col Mike Shaffer (Doc) has left the Tennessee Flaggers and is no longer their commander, and possibly the Tennessee group has disbanded. Even so, jealously that the VA flaggers are getting more attention, their SCV group & Tennessee Flaggers are trying to make a name for themselves by harassing, intimidation and other neo-Natzi confederate tactics. Their venomous spew and hatred does not say much for either the UDC or the SCV~ and it is neither honoring to the Confederate Veterans nor is it ‘heritage’, unless they are following the footsteps of the “KKK”.

      • Eve Davenport Holder September 15, 2013 / 6:50 am

        Careful how you use my name. It is called Slander. I have never used the word “A$$WHoopping” It is unladylike and unprofessional. I did call the WHA a hate group. This is because you desecrate the graves of the glorious dead. The Confederate Soldier is my first love. As a Southerner with over 100 ancestors who fought for the South and her Cause, it is my responsibility to see that they live on for future generations. If the WHA was truly a historical society, they would be protecting all history not just the history they pick and choose. You want to go on and post that I am a Member of the DAR and US Daughter of 1812? If their graves were being desecrated, I would protest this too. What about WWI, WWII, Korean and Vietnam graves? I stand to protect the graves of all our veterans. They are no longer able to speak up. It is up to us the living to see that their graves are kept up and their stories told. You want to try to keep up with me one day placing flowers and flags on CSA graves? You could not do it. I have photographed and documented the graves of 50,000 of the glorious dead. They are buried all over the South. Some off by themselves. However, they are not forgotten. Jealousy? The only Jealousy I see here is from the person who slandered me. I always give fellow Southerners respect when they are on the front lines protecting our heritage. They do the same for me. I do not speak for the UDC. Your implying that I do is WRONG. Your implying that I am a member or supporter of the KKK is wrong. You and the WHA are the ones showing hate every time you desecrate the grave of a Confederate Soldier. I suggest Miss Germaine that you and others not use my name again in any of your writings.

      • Betty Giragosian September 15, 2013 / 11:20 am

        Ms. Germaine, please do not associate the UDC with the problems WHA is having with a certain group We are not apart of that in any way, as an organization. . I am sure that you did not intend to imply that we were, but I wanted to make it clear to all.

      • Bill Hicks September 15, 2013 / 11:52 am

        Tennessee Flaggers is still organized, but voluntarily “inactive”. The group can be mobilized at any time. Mike Shaffer is confined to a wheelchair now. There are more flaggers now than we’ve ever had. My time is taken up now as commander of the Elizabethton SCV Camp, but there will be flaggings here as deemed necessary.
        We have never harassed or intimidated anyone—just upheld our rights of free speech. The name calling is coming from Germaine and her minions who have been led astray by government propaganda. We just want to be left alone. Germaine’s rants are from a defeated loser, with no organization left—- the issue at hand brought to the front when Dawn Peters claimed we had no right to fly our flags in that cemetery or anywhere else. Let her weep. Let them rant on.
        I am proud to be associated with Virginia Flaggers and regularly post for them at http://www.southernflaggersblogspot.com. We are alive and well here in Elizabethton, TN with the community on the side of true freedom.

        2:39pm

        Bill Hicks Scv

  3. Thelibertylamp September 14, 2013 / 7:12 am

    Interesting, their Nazi pals are all doing the same thing, trying to post info on anti-racists on Facebook pages and trying to threat and intimidate.

    One Nazi in particular calls himself “Oswald Spangler” but his real name is Michael “Weaver” Carothers, has been doing just this. You might find as a friend on some of the flagger’s accounts.

    He has quite a past:

    http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/2012/09/17/2206644/michael-carothers-remains-in-jail.html

    In fact, his Nazi violent action was so bad that he is actually banned from his home town in Columbus Ga.

    Well, this Mr “Oswald Spangler” is a bit dense, if not touched in the head, and decided out of the blue to start posting 411 of anti-racists on FB and he and his buddies added nice long threads of physical violence against them.

    The problem is he picked on the wrong people, he picked on people who know how to fight back, and now he is crying and calling himself a victim. Sound familiar?

    The interesting pattern I am seeing is that this is all happening the same time the flaggers are trying to pull same thing, using the same tactics and even some of the same kind of rhetoric.

    I have thought for a while that the white supremacist connection and the flaggers is more than just Heimbach.

    There is something a brewing in white powerland and my bets are things are not going to end well on their side.

  4. M.D. Blough September 14, 2013 / 8:04 am

    If they think they can “control” Heimbach and others like them, they are as deluded as Germans who thought they could use and control Hitler were.

  5. lenastorheim September 14, 2013 / 10:07 am

    I have a feeling, that the authorities who the Flaggerettes loathe so much, may have to intervene to keep the VA Flaggerettes at bay – they are going to physically hurt someone, given the aggression I’m witnessing. Susan Hathaway refers to the huge majority of the population as “enemies” – this is very radical and inflammatory talk. They seem to be extremist anti-government and have failed miserably at realizing they are residing in the United States – not a romanticized version of the long since defeated confederacy. They are walking the very fine line of domestic terrorism.

    • Betty Giragosian November 24, 2013 / 5:17 pm

      I am late replying, but I could not agree more with your assessment, ‘lenastorheim.” It is so well expressed I need add nothing, but my support.

    • Jefferson Moon September 15, 2013 / 6:27 am

      This,all of it,is insane.Whats the old saying,if you live by eye for a eye,everyone ends up blind..

  6. Trueism June 1, 2014 / 12:51 pm

    Now they are attacking me verbally via Facebook and threatening to find me and kill me. Grayson, Tripp, Grey Rider, Barron Smith, Mark Fleming, and many more To include Weaver.

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