A Flagger Explains American History

Courtesy of Flagger Grayson Jennings.

15 thoughts on “A Flagger Explains American History

  1. Patrick Young September 15, 2013 / 6:00 am

    He makes a big point of not just heritage, but ancestry. He points out that the Confederates were were the grandsons of the Founders and that the flaggers are the “blood” descendants of the Confederates. Brings up some doubts in my mind about the mental health of the Founding Fathers given the antics of their progeny. They need to get some new blood flowing in those family trees.

    I note that the speaker talks about his family’s roots going back to Jamestown, even though he was not asked a question on that. A lot of the discussions that I’ve heard the Flaggers engage in seem dismissive of the role as Americans of anyone who can’t trace ancestry back to before the Revolution. There seems to be a grandfater clause on who is a “Real American., or should I say a “Great, Great, Great Great, Great Grandfather Clause.

    • John Foskett September 16, 2013 / 7:00 am

      Well, that pretty much eliminates the descendants of soldiers who served in several Louisiana regiments and batteries from sharing in this character’s “heritage”.

    • Andy Hall September 16, 2013 / 8:18 am

      There seems to be a grandfater clause on who is a “Real American,” or should I say a “Great, Great, Great Great, Great Grandfather Clause.”

      That sort of thinking is implicit in the Southern nationalist movement, that openly argues that way too many people have the franchise to vote. (They will sometimes point to the Voting Rights Act and the Civil Rights Act in the mid-1960s as the point at which things went irretrievable off the rails in the “Empire.”) Before they closed their FB group, the LoS crowd was having an animated discussion about who would be allowed to vote in their new vision of the “Free South,” and in addition to the usual things like literacy tests and (substantial) real property holdings, they were discussing the merits of requiring a 5- to 10-year residency requirement in the local community, and five generations in the country. There was also some agreement than the 19th Amendment, giving women the vote, was also a mistake, but acknowledgement that there probably wasn’t any going back on that one now.

      So yes, there’s a very real strain of identifying what constitutes a “Real American.”

      • Jimmy Dick September 16, 2013 / 11:04 am

        They want to rewrite everything to make a White Christian only nation. There will be no room in their country for things Americans take for granted. Religious freedom: Gone. Freedom of Speech: Gone. Right to bear arms: Depends on your status and race. The Constitution will be replaced completely. It won’t even be close to the old confederate one. Freedom will only be allowed to the elites. Everyone else will be a second class or third class citizen. Political parties will be restricted.

        It will be South Africa all over again 1965. It will not be the USA at all. So I think I’ll just continue explaining to people why the Lost Cause is rooted in a lie and how modern day believers in it are really advocating the creation of a nation that ignores freedom and liberty in favor of racism and bigotry.

      • Flamethrower September 16, 2013 / 3:01 pm

        They mean a “Real Southron”. America is nothing but Yankee Puritanical trechery. Too lazy to prounouce the -er anymore.

  2. lenastorheim September 15, 2013 / 7:59 am

    Speechless. THIS is the man harassing women by posting what he thinks to be their home addresses on his Internet sites? (ie Mrs. Konate who he is trying to intimidate) He’s entered into a meat grinder. As for his debut as an Historian – still speechless. He made a fool of himself, a complete fool. Isn’t that Karen Cooper in the video? The African American who denounced her own race in her Internet posts to Facebook?

    • Brooks D. Simpson September 15, 2013 / 8:37 am

      Tripp Lewis operates the camera, and Susan Hathaway overssees the process … which is why this interview does not take place at the VMFA.

  3. Thelibertylamp September 15, 2013 / 8:25 am

    Historic revisionism is pretty common with this sort, much like Holocaust denying and the 911 Truth movement.

  4. Ed and Bettie September 15, 2013 / 1:52 pm

    This is just the beginning of using the media to present the Southern-side of the War for Southern Independence. The truth will be heard, and Americans will finally understand that A. Lincoln destroyed the Union instead of “preserving” it, and that slavery was an American problem, not just a Southern one. Finally, the issue of racism can be addressed…especially its insidious form in the North, and Southerners will be respected for their attempt to preserve the limited constitutional government as envisioned by the Founding Fathers. So many contemporary problems re: Federal usurpation of power originated during A. Lincoln’s Presidency, and it’s important to understand that the States must re-assert their authority where defined by the federal Constitution, so the balance of power can be restored. Finally, the Confederate Battle Flag will cease to be associated with slavery, since that tarnished “honor” is reserved for “Old Glory,” since “Old Glory” flew on American slave ships, not the Confederate Battle Flag. The Confederate Battle Flag was the soldiers’ flag, and was not the flag of the Confederate government. And since the KKK used the “Stars and Stripes” in many of their demonstrations, it is also associated with both racism and slavery. So, who can claim any moral high ground?

    • Brooks D. Simpson September 15, 2013 / 2:07 pm

      Apparently not you, by your own admission. Thanks and take care.

    • Jimmy Dick September 15, 2013 / 4:04 pm

      Only if you raise a lot of money to pay to get your trash on TV. Meanwhile in the colleges and high schools across America the facts will be taught and your fake version of how you want history to have been will be ridiculed.
      Still using an alias, huh? Too cowardly to use your real name? Or just don’t like being laughed at?

    • Flamethrower September 16, 2013 / 3:05 pm

      “So many contemporary problems re: Federal usurpation of power originated during A. Lincoln’s Presidency”

      I hope you protest too the same level of even worse administrative corruption that happened under the orders of the CSA’s only president Jefferson Davis?

  5. Al Mackey September 15, 2013 / 4:07 pm

    We already knew he was clueless about history. It’s heritage, not history.

    • Michael Confoy September 16, 2013 / 12:18 pm

      Do these Virginia units count as part of the heritage?

      Virginia Federal Units
      1st Regiment Loyal Eastern Virginia Volunteers
      1st Regiment, Virginia Infantry
      16th Regiment, Virginia Infantry
      Dameron’s Independent Company, Virginia Volunteers
      Loudoun Rangers

  6. Michael Rodgers September 15, 2013 / 4:39 pm

    We fly the Stars and Stripes because it’s our nation’s flag. No matter how tarnished anyone says it is, we still must and do fly it as a sovereign symbol of our nation. When we fly it there is NO confusion whatsoever about WHY.

    We oughtn’t fly the Confederate flag anywhere it sends confusing signals about WHY.

    There’s nothing wrong with displaying the Confederate flag in an unambiguously historical or memorial manner — i.e. in a way so everyone can clearly see that the reason it’s there is a good one and that reason is to remember the service and sacrifice of the Confederate soldiers. For example, the display at the Alabama state house is perfectly OK.

    That’s all there is to this whole donnybrook. It’s neither complicated nor controversial.

    You want to fly the Confederate flag because you want to remember the service and sacrifice of the Confederate soldiers? Go ahead, just do it in a way so that your reason is clear — i.e. so everyone can immediately discern that your reason is to remember the service and sacrifice of the Confederate soldiers and that you have no other reason.

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