News and Notes, October 9, 2013

I have some catching up to do …

  • A post by Kevin Levin about the National Park Service in the shadow of post-shutdown critics has garnered a fair share of attention. Read this for some clear-headed responses to typical questions.
  • I don’t know whether to think this is funny, sad, or pathetic … or a little of each. Especially since the fellow in the picture is descended from a man who owed his congressional seat to white supremacist terrorism. Nice way to respect the Confederate battle flag …
  • The League of the South cuts ties with Matthew Heimbach … but the Virginia Flaggers have not. Nor have the Sons of Confederate Veterans. Just sayin’ …
  • And, finally, this insightful observation from another blogger:  “I don’t think its any coincidence that Robertson and Freeman wrote the definitive biographies of Lee and Jackson (respectively) and that Robertson and Freeman were Virginians who served in the Confederate Army.” Really?

18 thoughts on “News and Notes, October 9, 2013

    • Andy Hall October 8, 2013 / 1:15 pm

      Didn’t work at first because I’d changed the post order. Should work now, though.

  1. Schroeder October 8, 2013 / 1:04 pm

    I read their convo and it sounds as if they are heart-broken. BS. They may type their dismay, but there is still a strong undercurrent of white supremacy with these groups, and there always will be. Let’s see if the SCV and the Flaffers distance themselves from the white supremacy – won’t happen. I couldn’t open the second link either…

  2. John Foskett October 8, 2013 / 2:43 pm

    Good for Kevin Levin for putting that up. I know people who work at Grand Teton, Glacier, and Rocky Mountain NP’s in various jobs – permanents and seasonals. The only thing I can conclude is that when Paul needs dental work, an eye exam, or a haircut he has to visit a proctologist. A grandstanding clown like that should be required to move and empty honeybuckets during the shutdown.

  3. Roger E Watson October 8, 2013 / 3:05 pm

    Reading the LOTS posts tells me one thing. They are dishonest, white supremacist, racists. They give lip service to distancing themselves from an avowed white supremacist while their own posts are patently racist. They are fooling no one. The SCV and Floggers are in exactly the same position. It’s about time we stopped dancing around the issue and called them exactly what they are RACISTS !

    • Corey Meyer October 9, 2013 / 8:24 am

      Yep it seem it is just lip service…window dressing…since the post cannot be found now or at least that is what my source tells me. (Wink to Connie)

  4. Bob Nelson October 8, 2013 / 6:17 pm

    Thanks for straightening me out on Robertson and Freeman. I always had it the other way around in my “Today” posts. Thanks for the correction. I’ll double check my footnotes. LOL

  5. Lyle Smith October 9, 2013 / 8:51 am

    Per the NPCA advocacy article. Let’s play a negotiation game. I’ll start.

    I would support cutting the Defense, Social Security, Welfare, Medicare, and Medicaid budgets by 25% each, and then raising the NPS budget by 200% (imagine brigades of reenactors getting paid for their time and efforts on certain days of the year).

    Any takers for this deal?

    Also, if the National Mall is to be open for “first amendment rights” I don’t see the need for a single barricade. I don’t find the policing argument for the barricades to be very compelling since these things (vandalism and robberies) are just as likely to happen when there is a full staff, as the advocacy article itself points out with the recent green paint incident at the Lincoln Memorial. Reasonable people can disagree though, although I guess I probably should look at myself in the mirror and make sure I’ve not got a bomb strapped to my chest.

    God bless everyone! I love you all.

    • Patrick Young October 9, 2013 / 4:31 pm

      Lyle Smith, you wrote:

      “I don’t find the policing argument for the barricades to be very compelling since these things (vandalism and robberies) are just as likely to happen when there is a full staff, as the advocacy article itself points out with the recent green paint incident at the Lincoln Memorial.”

      The fact that vandalism happened when the monuments were staffed does mean that it is “just as likely to happen” without NPS fully staffed. The fact that vandalism is possible under both scenarios does not mean that it is equally likely under both.

      • Lyle Smith October 9, 2013 / 6:51 pm

        One might think it is more likely to happen when the open-air, public space is not fully staffed, but being that it is an open-air, public space anyone can vandalize it or commit a crime there at anytime. It is a free country after all.

        And if no barricades were put up to block peoples’ access, there would be plenty of people to see what other people are doing or have done, which was the case with the green paint lady at the Lincoln Memorial. Some good citizen saw what happened and reported it. So ironically, these places may be more vulnerable to vandalism when closed to the public, because there will be fewer people around to see what is going on.

        Regardless, allowing some select groups of people to exercise their “first amendment rights” takes the cake though. Either let everyone enjoy their “first amendment rights” in the open-air, public space or no one.

        • Patrick Young October 9, 2013 / 7:20 pm

          Lyle, you wrote “Regardless, allowing some select groups of people to exercise their “first amendment rights” takes the cake though. Either let everyone enjoy their “first amendment rights” in the open-air, public space or no one”

          What you fail to recognize is that this “first amendment” display refers to protests. Since the visible places for protests at the capital are all parts of the Mall, banning these would cut off most protests. In other words, people protesting against “Obamacare” would be barred from protesting where Congress would be likely to see them. You refer to the protesters as “some select groups” but the NPS can’t make content based decisions on who protests.

          I really find it odd that Fox News which backs a street protest movement called the Tea Party criticized the NPS for allowing protests on the Mall.

          • Lyle Smith October 10, 2013 / 7:14 am

            I’m not Fox News Patrick, but the NPS didn’t enforce the “1st Amendment activities” in Washington and Philadelphia very clearly last week. People were in fact barred from the memorials at one point. Not everyone or organization is always perfect.

            We also all know the Honor Flight men aren’t protesting a dang thing. They just want the right to assemble at the World War II memorial.

  6. Lyle Smith October 10, 2013 / 8:01 am

    Would a walking tour at Gettysburg National Park be exempt as well? Must be, since that would be a “1st Amendment activity”.

    Someone let all the people who give walking tours know.

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