Oops … The Flaggers Did It Again

Several weeks ago Al Mackey posed the following inquiry about the Virginia Flaggers’ little flag pole project:

… one wonders if they’ve complied with all the requirements of Chesterfield County.  For example, did they obtain a land disturbance permit from the county?

This inflamed Connie Chastain, who went after Al in characteristically bitter fashion. She assured everyone that Grayson Jennings knew what he was doing, given his business experience.

You can’t find Connie’s post now. Why? (Thanks to Al Mackey for locating the quote and the post).

As Connie put it:

Mackey’s list of Virginia land-use requirements takes the cake, though. You don’t start, build and own a successful specialized construction business in Virginia — as one of the Flaggers has done — without knowing the law, ya know?  

Really? I’m not so sure. Perhaps that’s because of  this:

“We then sent it to a second address we found, but by that time they had already erected [the pole] without a permit,” Kappel explained. “The folks who erected the flagpole did some research, they looked online, and they didn’t think they needed a permit. The language, to a layman, may be somewhat misleading.”

Kappel said the county has “determined that they made an honest effort” to meet county requirements. “We are working with the group to have them obtain the necessary permits and to determine that the pole meets the requirements for safety and so on.”

In short, Jennings was sloppy if not simply incompetent.  Perhaps he didn’t know what he was doing. And he may have more to deal with than the local authorities in Chesterfield.

The rest of the article demonstrates that at best Barry Isenhour’s rather creative with the truth. It also reveals what some of us knew before: that people had already located where the flag pole was located before the grand unveiling.

So … Jennings is incompetent, Chastain’s a fool, and Isenhour’s full of it. And Susan Hathaway’s silent. Anyone ask her about the Robinson House lately?

It also appears that Chastain has an interest in popular music. Here’s a little number for Tripp Lewis and her. Nice outfit, Connie! At least it’s Confederate gray and what might pass for butternut.

UPDATE: As one might have predicted, Connie went nuts again in a rather feeble effort to reply to this post, because she finds it too hard to say that she was wrong. But she was, and no amount of ranting will change that, ya know?


25 thoughts on “Oops … The Flaggers Did It Again

  1. spelunker October 10, 2013 / 6:30 am

    I am in major like with this blog. It is my daily dose of humor. Thank you.

  2. Al Mackey October 10, 2013 / 7:00 am

    It appears to this layman that Director Kappel is being very kind to them. I didn’t think the language was misleading at all. You know at the very least the county is going to want some fees. Also, what will happen if they can’t come up with an erosion and sediment control plan that the county’s environmental engineer will approve? Oops.

  3. Rob Baker October 10, 2013 / 7:11 am

    The Miley Cyrus song hurts my eyes. Robyn Thicke has ruined Beetlejuice for me.

  4. Roger E Watson October 10, 2013 / 7:30 am

    “Criticism of the flaggers’ plan was widespread and mainly focused on the fact that many people today associate the battle flag with white supremacist groups such as the Ku Klux Klan.”

    What about that other white supremacist group known as the Confederate States of America ?

  5. Schroeder October 10, 2013 / 8:08 am

    They will be encroaching on the I-95 maintenance easement – no cutting those trees – someone didn’t do their due diligence. There are fines for digging without a permit – VDOT will most likely survey now and they are no one to mess with. Thank you for that searing image in my head now, of Connie and her love of Cyrus (interesting, I didn’t guess her for a fan of a twerking 20 year old – get the Bengay ready).

  6. Jefferson Moon October 10, 2013 / 8:54 am

    That was a chuck of her blog Ms.Chastain had to remove.

    • Brooks D. Simpson October 11, 2013 / 6:45 pm

      No, it was there. I was happy to see that it was. Contrary to her claims, things have disappeared in the past. But I sm impressed by the time she invests in her rants.

  7. Bob Huddleston October 10, 2013 / 9:27 am

    RE Lee must be rolling over in his grave to see the kind of people he was fignting for!

    • Brooks D. Simpson October 10, 2013 / 10:54 am

      You do understand the difference between an ordinance prohibiting the construction of something and the need to obtain a permit to build it, don’t you?

      • Al Mackey October 10, 2013 / 11:16 am

        Apparently he doesn’t.

        • John Foskett October 10, 2013 / 2:20 pm

          …which means that he’d better check on that new garage or new deck which he just installed.

    • Andy Hall October 11, 2013 / 7:00 am

      Billy, there’s no ordinance that prohibits me from building an extension to my house, either. But I still have the get the plans drawn up and approved by the city, get permits for construction, electrical work and plumbing, and have all the work done by licensed contractors. This ain’t rocket science, it’s just how things work.

      It does sound like the county is being reasonable about this, giving the Flaggers the benefit of the doubt and publicly stating (in Friday’s Richmond Times-Dispatch) that they were operating in good faith, and simply misunderstood the rules. That could happen to anybody, but the Flaggers need to get their paperwork in order and move on. The louder they and their supporters complain about this, the more they look like spoiled children, resentful that they’re being required to follow the same rules as everyone else in the Commonwealth.

  8. Michael Confoy October 10, 2013 / 11:48 am

    I noted in an early comment that Virginia is now very hard ass about erecting anything along the interstates highways that distract drivers and compromise the real heritage and beauty that Virginia wants to project to visitors. You can see the big difference driving down Interstate 85 in Virginia and when you cross into North Carolina.

  9. Schroeder October 10, 2013 / 1:12 pm

    It is required in VA to contact Miss Utility and obtain a permit to dig.

  10. John Foskett October 10, 2013 / 1:36 pm

    See, here’s where things get all-fired confusing with this crowd: “The KKK has been dishonoring [Confederate soldiers] for years because they used the flag wrong”, stated by Mr. Isenhour. Say, Barry – who all founded the KKK in ’65 and populated its ranks back in the good old days of night riding, lynching, and torching?

    • Roger E Watson October 10, 2013 / 2:04 pm

      In case good ole Barry has a case of memory lapse, how about a hint — do the initials NBF ring a bell ?

      • John Foskett October 10, 2013 / 2:19 pm

        Actually, “Bedford” wasn’t a founder and, to his credit, ditched the organization after a couple of years when it had expanded into widespread terrorism. But there’s no question that it started out as a CSA veterans outfit, that they were a primary source of its rapid growth, and that their activities set the precedent for later iterations of the Klan which, in Isenhour’s words, “used the flag wrong”. I actually wonder how much of that he even knows…

      • Andy Hall October 10, 2013 / 2:36 pm

        The general’s grandson, Nathan Bedford Forrest II, may be a more relevant example here.

  11. Rob Baker October 10, 2013 / 2:11 pm

    I thought Connie’s comments were in the comments section of a post, but not a full post by itself. I can’t remember though.

  12. Flamethrower October 10, 2013 / 2:31 pm

    All Connie had to do to find out how to obtain the permit is just go find the county’s court clerk(s) office, or look up their .gov site and then email her inquiry. Why is she just too lazy?

  13. Al Mackey October 11, 2013 / 11:38 am

    I have been reveling in the short-lived glory of having “taken the cake” of all of Connie’s targets. But now I suspect Brooks has resumed his rightful place as Numero Uno on Connie’s hit list. 🙂

  14. Thelibertylamp October 11, 2013 / 1:34 pm

    In this rare moment, I don’t have really anything to add but just to sit back and have more popcorn…

  15. Roger E Watson October 11, 2013 / 3:10 pm

    I will be passing through Richmond on Monday heading for NC. I’ll have my wife doing the driving so I can search the landscape for the rightfully maligned (not so authentic) stars and bars. From what I understand, it should be on the left or the right or behind the trees or…….. 😉

    • Al Mackey October 13, 2013 / 8:54 am

      If you’re traveling southbound it will be on the right just behind the Old Bermuda Hundred Road overpass south of Richmond.

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