“It’s my flag now. Now what are you going to do?”

kanye-west-CSA-flag“So I took the Confederate flag and made it my flag,” says Kanye West. “It’s my flag now. Now what are you going to do?”

That’s right.

Flag 102713No comment from the Kanye West Fan Club (Taylor Swift chapter) on when they plan to dedicate this fascinating tribute to Kim Kardashian’s husband, currently hidden behind some trees off I-95 south of Richmond.

After all … it’s his flag now.

21 thoughts on ““It’s my flag now. Now what are you going to do?”

  1. Schroeder November 3, 2013 / 5:36 am

    Good point. It’s MY flag too, and I took it from the losers and replaced it with the US Flag. Whatcha gonna do Flaggerettes?

  2. Jeffry Burden November 3, 2013 / 8:37 am

    HA! This is brilliant. He takes the argument in a whole ‘nother direction, and co-opts the power of the flag. He’s a head case, but he’s on to something here.

  3. Charles Lovejoy November 3, 2013 / 11:08 am

    He is a little behind , the rapper/ actor Ludacris here in Atlanta was wearing and using the Confederate flag back in 2005. The rapper producer Lil Jon used a Confederate flag and used it on one of his album covers “Put Yo Hood Up”.

    • Brooks D. Simpson November 3, 2013 / 1:01 pm

      Quite true. But Mr. West is skilled in attracting attention.

      • Charles Lovejoy November 3, 2013 / 1:44 pm

        Guess it’s a home town thing, just always liked Lil Jon and Ludacris more than Kanye West.

  4. Corey Meyer November 3, 2013 / 12:10 pm

    Maybe the flaggers could erect a statue to Mr. West along with that other improvements to the flag site on I-95. And does this make Mr. West a Black Confederate further proving that 90,000 blacks fought for the confederacy?

    • Charles Lovejoy November 3, 2013 / 1:57 pm

      Don’t think so. The way our pop culture works is, a celebrity does something and people try to emulate them. Don’t be surprised if several other hip-hop artist do not try to cash in on Kanye West Idea and all kids both black and white don’t want a Tee-shirt with Confederate flag on it. Y’all do know 70 % of rap and hip-hop music is bought by whites. Far as influence with kids , I’m thinking Lil Wayne probably has more influence with the teen to mid 20’s crowd than Kanye West right now.

  5. Chris Evans November 3, 2013 / 2:37 pm

    What a egomaniac.

    Talk about truly a “Bride at every wedding and the corpse at every funeral” type of person.

    Chris

  6. Rob Baker November 4, 2013 / 7:24 am

    Does anybody else think this is a bad thing?

    • Charles Lovejoy November 4, 2013 / 5:15 pm

      I don’t think its a bad or good thing, just how somebody interprets it. If Kanye wants to make it his, that what he should do. I found a scan of an old Allman Brothers, Marshal Tucker band poster for a concert in Atlanta 1970’s. It has two CBFs on it. I just don’t see a big deal one way or the other about the CBF. When I see a CBF, I think of the old southern bands like the Allman Brothers, Marshal Tucker ect, and Civil War history. They don’t bother me

      • Rob Baker November 4, 2013 / 6:42 pm

        Desensitizing symbols. For everyone.

        • Jeffry Burden November 4, 2013 / 7:53 pm

          But if members of a group believing itself to be oppressed by a “symbol” seize some control of that symbol, and therefore cease in their minds to be oppressed (at least somewhat) by that symbol, why is that bad? The symbol itself is only oppressive or evil because of what we associate with it.

          Those who wave it as a sign of oppression have only the power we give them. The rest of us now have a way to relate to it that doesn’t at the same time imply respect for those who fought to maintain human chattel slavery. In the end, a collection of shapes and colors is not intrinsically evil.

          I think this is exactly what we all need.

          • Rob Baker November 5, 2013 / 5:12 am

            The “oppression” does not simply go away by seizing control of the symbol. It is desensitizing. The same can be argued for words. Why do so many people use “Gay” or “Faggot” in a derogatory context? Because they are desensitized to the word, and its implications.

            The power remains, despite the what anyone gave anybody. That cannot be removed because someone wants to use it as his pop-culture icon. If that were true, Dixie Outfitter would have removed the oppression years ago.

          • Jeffry Burden November 5, 2013 / 6:42 pm

            But who are you to say that a person of color — maybe even a descendant of slaves — can’t get away from a feeling of oppression from the CBF, by taking some control of it? Or that large numbers of such persons can’t do so? It may not go completely away, but can’t it be lessened? As a white man, that’s not my call.

            You raise a good point about words being destructive, but I think the key point is that people use the words precisely BECAUSE those people are aware how highly sensitive others are. To use a crude example, just ask yourself what’s more appalling: A CBF flown on a flagpole by a race-baiter, or that same race-baiter standing next to the flagpole calling passers-by “dirty Spic”, “Jewboy” or “N*gger”?

            Give Kanye credit — I think his intent may be something more than to use the CBF as a short-term pop-culture prop. We’ll see on that. But even if so, he’s at least chipped away at the oppressive power of the flag. And I speak as one who believes it desirable and appropriate to display the CBF in the right context.

          • Rob Baker November 6, 2013 / 6:44 am

            I’d say good luck finding someone that is truly oppressed, embrace the symbol of oppression as a pop-culture icon. Also, let us keep in mind that a person of color, is not the only person that type of symbol oppresses. We often think of the evolving meaning of the CBF, but one thing that is often overlooked is how that symbol of oppression found new targets in the 20th century; http://www.booknotes.org/Watch/37770-1/Jack+Nelson.aspx

            They are both bad. One is visual and one audio.

            I’m not giving Kanye credit for much of anything. He’s a proven hypocrite which is why I maintain this is nothing more than a fad for him. If anything changes, I’ll eat crow.

          • Jeffry Burden November 6, 2013 / 8:52 pm

            But Rob, that’s the point — in this scenario we’re discussing, the oppressed embrace it on their own terms, for their own reasons, not the oppressor’s reason. It’s not easy to do that, and you may be right that not many can handle that, but if they can, more power to ’em.

            In Kanye’s case, he may indeed be flaunting the CBF just for shock value. But even if so, his display tends to lessen the oppressive power of it, at least for some people.

          • Rob Baker November 7, 2013 / 5:20 am

            Perhaps I should clarify.

            Good luck finding someone who was oppressed, agree with the image of accepting as a pop culture icon. It is far more noble to point out its flaws, than to wear it to bring attention to yourself and sell singles. I don’t really see Kanye West as a figure of constant oppression. He is cashing in on a pop-culture icon, to stir up controversy and bringing attention to himself. This is relevant due to the increased attention the CBF received after being waved in front of the White House.

            I disagree that it’s display lessens the oppressive power, it merely desensitizes our shock value to it. If Kanye West can flaunt it wherever he so desires, then why not the Flaggers. It is a double standard.

          • Jeffry Burden November 7, 2013 / 11:06 am

            Here’s a news flash, Rob — the Flaggers (and many others) are ALREADY flaunting it whenever they desire. That’s a done deal. The rest of the world can either whine and fume about it, or try to take some control themselves.

            You seem obsessed with the idea that the CBF has a magic mojo that makes it shocking no matter the setting or context. I say the hell with that — it has as much power as I’m willing to give it, and I’m as capable of defining it as anyone else…but I’m not of that segment of society against which the flag has been flaunted. Is Kanye a self-serving jerk? Maybe, but here’s another news flash — he’s not the only person of color out there.

          • Rob Baker November 7, 2013 / 8:03 pm

            Thanks for the multiple news flashes I guess, but if I want sensationalism, I’ll watch Faux.

            I seem obsessed? How about you save the self serving character analysis unless you want the same in return. You are as capable as defining a flag, or any symbol, if you so choose. But – wait for it – News Flash – assuming control does not erase the past of the symbol. Swastika anyone?

            Finally, keep in mind, that “person(s) of color,’ are not the only people oppressed by the CBF

          • Charles Lovejoy November 5, 2013 / 7:13 am

            Jeffry I agree, the CBF is what a person associates with it. When people like Kanye, Lil Jon and Ludacris use it, it takes on a different meaning. It should neutralize it’s outrage for some people that seem to be outraged by it. What a flag was and what it has come down to today can be different things. To me the CBF simply reminds me of old Allman Brothers concerts andsouthern rock concerts I went to when I was in High School. It also reminds me of visiting Civil War museums growing up. If it means something different to others then that is them and their interpretation not mine. Some times I feel people tend to over intellectualize issues.

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