Try Flying This One

VA Flaggers Flag

That was bad enough. But then I received this:

VA Flaggers Flag RevisedOh, my. This should keep some people busy for the next few days.

H/T to the artist.

UPDATE: Carl Roden whines:

People vandalize and/or misuse the Southern Cross all the time …

Absolutely. See here. And, of course, here. Disgraceful, no?


14 thoughts on “Try Flying This One

  1. mark wright July 17, 2014 / 4:36 pm

    People these days are arrogant 100 yrs before the war between the states happened there was slavery under the American flag are ya saying that flag is racist to? If your a true American look up your history and the whole world thrived on slavery and slavery is still here today

    • mark wright July 17, 2014 / 4:38 pm

      And the southern cross originated from st Andrew the southern cross is a Christian flag whether you believe it or not

    • Brooks D. Simpson July 17, 2014 / 4:49 pm

      One hundred years before the Civil War began there was no United States of America. Thus there could not have been a United States flag at that time.

      Did the Confederate flag ever represent a nation that did not sanction the enslavement of human beings? No.

      • mark wright July 17, 2014 / 4:56 pm

        But brooks when the united States was born their was slavery and slavery ended in 1868 when the 13 amendment was ratified

        • Brooks D. Simpson July 17, 2014 / 5:04 pm

          Slavery ended in 1865 when the 13th amendment was ratified. You might need to do a little more reading. As for your math, in 1761 … one hundred years before the beginning of the Civil War … there was no United States. So perhaps you find arithmetic a challenge as well.

          Now, could you please tell me when the Confederacy abolished slavery?

  2. mark wright July 17, 2014 / 5:24 pm

    I will admit my math was off but their was still slavery in the US for about 80 or 90 yrs but their was black Confederates and the confederacy was enlisting them the Confederacy wanted independence more than they did slavery and if the South did win slavery might’ve been abolished eventually and I do respect your opinion I hope ya feel the same way

    • Brooks D. Simpson July 17, 2014 / 5:34 pm

      There were efforts to enlist backs into the Confederate army in 1865. Before that enlisting blacks was against Confederate policy, and the Confederates actually refused offers from free creoles to serve in 1861-62. Had the Confederacy wanted independence more than it wanted slavery, it had a chance to show that in 1861. By 1861, many people gave up on the Confederacy precisely because it had failed to protect slavery, with the call for black enlistment (a desperate measure) being the final blow.

      Opinions are fine. We all have them. Facts, however, can be a bit more troublesome.

  3. mark wright July 17, 2014 / 5:26 pm

    And Maryland and delware were slave states to who fought for the union

    • Brooks D. Simpson July 17, 2014 / 5:30 pm

      Gee, you forgot Missouri and Kentucky. You need to brush up on your history.

      • mark wright July 17, 2014 / 5:33 pm

        Kentucky and Missouri were admitted into the Confederacy did ya know that

        • Brooks D. Simpson July 17, 2014 / 5:36 pm

          I know that two of the stars on the Confederate battle flag stood for those states, but, as I’m sure you know, loyal state governments remained in Missouri and Kentucky.

          Tell me this: why wouldn’t the Confederacy recognize the self-determination of white unionists in Tennessee and North Carolina?

          • mark wright July 17, 2014 / 5:44 pm

            Why wouldn’t the union do the same?When ya have peoplein deDelaware and Maryland that were loyal to the CSA but hey I don’t wannaargue ok ya have your vviewsand iI have mine pleaserrespect thay

          • Brooks D. Simpson July 17, 2014 / 6:00 pm

            Because the United States did not recognize secession. The Confederacy did. Thus the USA was being consistent … and the CSA wasn’t.

            I respect your right to have an opinion. I’m simply questioning your grasp of the facts. You directed me to “look up your history.” I suggest that you take your own advice.

        • Jimmy Dick July 17, 2014 / 9:32 pm

          Missouri did not secede. Its governor did everything he could to get it to secede, but he was driven out of the state. The secession convention called into being in early 1861 had no secessionists elected as delegates. The governor called a session of the legislature into being in Neosho, but did not have enough there to form a quorum. Interestingly, the logs of that event were recently found and they corroborated an eyewitness’s account.

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