Seems Like I Struck a Nerve

Well, it appears that the League of the South now knows what the Mid-South Flaggers think of their participation in a recent event at Oxford, Mississippi.
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Again, I appreciate the candor Brad Griffin and his associates display in this exchange of views … especially when it comes to H. K. Edgerton. Guess you know where you stand now, H. K.

UPDATE: I guess exposing this exchange embarrassed the League of the South, which immediately removed it from their Facebook page … just a little too late, I think.

29 thoughts on “Seems Like I Struck a Nerve

  1. Eric Wittenberg August 17, 2014 / 7:01 pm

    Tripp Hendersson is a real class act, and a wonderful spokesman for the movement. This Jew does know what you are: a racist, anti-Semitic piece of crap that isn’t worth being scraped off the bottom of my shoe.

    • John Foskett August 18, 2014 / 6:45 am

      That crowd never seems to understand the Nazi analogy. “The jews know who and what we are….” I’ll wager one can readily find a quote from Hitler, Goebbels, or Streicher which is identical. By the way, does this dolt know that there were plenty of Jews who fought in the CSA’s armed forces? I doubt he has the capacity to read Rosen’s excellent book. And I doubt he’s ever heard of Judah Benjamin. All of which simply exposes for the world that these activities have zero – nothing – to do with history.

    • Ben Allen August 18, 2014 / 11:19 am

      Mr. Wittenberg, a better response to his sort would be less overt, perhaps even darkly humorous: “Tripp, I know the perfect solution. How about you all round up all the Jews (plus homosexuals, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Slavs, Gypsies, and the mentally disabled) and send them to concentration camps. When they arrive there, all the women, children, and others deemed unable to work will go to gas chambers disguised as showers. As for the fit men, you should get some work out of them before they are completely exhausted and consequently sent to the gas chambers, too… Oh, I forgot: this idea isn’t original. The National Socialist Party did it. Do you know what they were also called? You probably don’t, as you apparently have a low level of knowledge.” If he can’t figure it out, give him the answer and wait for his reaction. It’s a perfect, relatively more polite “burn” that doesn’t allow you to lower yourself to his uncivilized level by calling him names… assuming, of course, that he will want to disassociate himself from such vile human beings.🙂

  2. khepera420 August 17, 2014 / 7:47 pm

    I wonder how HK feels knowing he’s just a minstrel showto most of these folks. Or maybe he’s known it all along and doesn’t care.

    • Rosemary August 18, 2014 / 2:45 am

      maybe he does it to stick it to ’em….
      I hope he’s writing a book….

      • khepera420 August 18, 2014 / 12:53 pm

        Unfortunately, Rosemary, I think he’s the real deal. As an African American whose ancestors fought in the Revolutionary War, and to preserve the Union and end slavery during the Civil War, I find his schtick particularly odious. I’m, frankly, embarrassed for the man.

        • Rosemary August 18, 2014 / 1:49 pm

          I’m new to learning about these groups…. No info only first impression of HK…. he’s taking money to appear and this is what gave me idea he was an actor, or undercover for some reason…. bummer re his being real deal. sad.

  3. Christopher Shelley August 17, 2014 / 8:48 pm

    I appreciate the candor, too. It’s refreshing to hear. And it’s even more amazing to me that the one person whose beliefs are the most repulsive is the same person who understands what the Confederacy was really about. There’s a mind-blowing irony here that I struggle to find adjectives with which to savor.

    • The other Susan August 17, 2014 / 11:04 pm

      The honesty was kind of oddly refreshing.

  4. The other Susan August 17, 2014 / 11:03 pm

    I was thinking that it looked a bit like one League of the Souther was turning his body and shielding his baby as HK approached in a photo you posted a few days ago. But I had dismissed the idea from my mind. Reading this I’m thinking the idea might have a little bit more credibility.

    • Hunter Wallace August 18, 2014 / 7:38 am

      That’s me.

      You’re reading too much into the photograph. It was just a hot day.

      • The other Susan August 18, 2014 / 12:10 pm

        Fair enough. Thanks for the reply.

    • Hunter Wallace August 18, 2014 / 7:39 am

      You’re reading too much into the photo. It was just a hot day.

  5. Rosemary August 18, 2014 / 2:53 am

    Note to Jamie:
    Men have been leading and the world is down in its handbasket in hell most of the time…….
    Reconsider, honey.

    • Rosemary August 18, 2014 / 2:59 am

      PS: Mrs Lee got screwed out of her family birthright by her “loving” husband leading the way… the “loving” husband who never visited her during the war though he mostly was in Virginia…. the “loving” husband who told her to leave her home but didn’t find her a place to go or help her pack or preserve artifacts, and who didn’t help her with the move…. the “loving” husband who adored George Washington but loved benefits derived from his “servants” more than anyone or anything else.

  6. Andrew Raker August 18, 2014 / 7:34 am

    It seems that MSF and LOS are engaged in the “perpetual firing squad” well enough on their own. LOS members were critical of the march in Oxford almost as soon as it happened, including in comments on this blog.

    But, at least I became allies with Hunter Wallace and Brad Griffin in our criticism of HK’s supposed vehicle:/

  7. Hunter Wallace August 18, 2014 / 7:55 am

    I said on Facebook that I knew HK was going to be there. I considered that less important than opposing what is happening at Ole Miss. Otherwise, I wouldn’t have spent $500 on my trip there.

    Needless to say, I don’t believe that HK or anyone can “prove” the CBF isn’t racist. As Dr. Hill pointed out, Mississippi was “racist” before, during, and for well over a hundred years after the War Between the States.

    The spot where we posed for that photograph at Ole Miss in front of the Confederate monument is the Lyceum area which is a National Historic Landmark. Not only was Ole Miss “racist” in 1962, JFK had to federalize the Mississippi National Guard to integrate the university. No other Southern university out up that much resistance.

    In 1962, Ole Miss students ripped down the US flag and raised the CBF at the height of the race riot. The Lyceum area was full of protesting students using the CBF to support segregation. The CBF was used as a symbol of resistance to US authority and racial values which, as it happens, was exactly how the CBF was used in the War Between the States.

    We had problems with one individual, Bieber, not HK, hours after the event on Facebook. I was reacting to that matter flaring back up again.

    • Brooks D. Simpson August 18, 2014 / 11:11 am

      People can read what was posted and see for themselves what was said … especially now that the original exchange is no longer available.

      • Hunter Wallace August 18, 2014 / 11:34 am

        The entire thread wasn’t posted here. I later regretted starting the thread and deleted it, but several of my comments above are accurate. I was just clarifying that I was reacting to Mark Bieber, not HK.

        We had an exchange with Bieber on Facebook several hours after the event was over which created ill will. As I said in the screenshot above, we resolved the matter privately, and it flared up again yesterday after Bieber’s comments were posted on this blog.

        A friend of mine has had problems with another Mid-South Flagger, Lani Rinkel, but to my knowledge she wasn’t in Oxford, and is no longer with the group. Personally, I don’t care what HK does for a living – if people want to pay him $20,000 to speak at their event, that’s on them.

        Who wouldn’t drive to Mississippi to give a speech for $20,000? Hell, I know I would.

        • Brooks D. Simpson August 18, 2014 / 11:54 am

          Let’s face it: this whole business commenced when the Mid-South Flaggers got upset. Ben Jones still can’t see you. People should simply stake out their positions, and there’s nothing wrong with that.

          • Hunter Wallace August 18, 2014 / 1:09 pm

            No, there weren’t any problems at the rally itself. It began around 11 PM that night when Mark Bieber sent us a series of messages over Facebook.

            As I mentioned above, I resolved the matter privately the next morning. Bieber lashed out as an individual. He was the only person we had any problems with there. I’m told that he has done this many times before with other people unaffiliated with us.

            In any case, that’s where the matter stood until yesterday morning when I saw that Bieber had been mouthing off on Facebook and starting his crap again. We weren’t planning to hold any future events anyway because of Bieber.

            I was just clarifying that we have had problems with Bieber and Rinkel, not HK. I’ve been at events where HK was at before and never had any problems with him.

      • Spelunker August 18, 2014 / 11:51 am

        Brad Mad!

  8. Will Hickox August 18, 2014 / 11:10 am

    I assume that the “SCV Mechanized Calvary” is some kind of religious organization.

    • SF Walker August 18, 2014 / 5:00 pm

      Evidently the site where Jesus was crucified has been put on wheels. The SCV must have some terrific engineers in its ranks.

  9. The other Susan August 18, 2014 / 4:09 pm

    As delightful as it is to see these two groups go at each other. I think the League of the South might not be giving the Mid South Flaggers enough credit when it comes to being racist. The Flaggers are clearly trying to use positive reinforcement to highlight what behaviors they see as appropriate for African Americas. Much the same as their predecessors did when they told stories of loyal slaves.
    http://books.google.com/books?id=w2xAAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA421#v=onepage&q&f=false

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