9/11/14

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(via the NY Post/@GaryHershorn)

18 thoughts on “9/11/14

  1. Lyle Smith September 10, 2014 / 10:19 pm

    No matter what our breathtakingly daft leaders say… it has been and continues to be about Islamism. Let us not forget.

    • Rosemary September 11, 2014 / 2:01 pm

      You know squat about this religion. Are all Southerns flaggers? No. Today of all days, open your heart and open a book and learn some history. You make me sad.

  2. The other Susan September 11, 2014 / 3:13 am

    I’m glad they are still turning on the memorial lights. They are quite moving to see in person and the best place to see them is from New Jersey.

  3. Sandi Saunders September 11, 2014 / 6:47 am

    No matter what inane comments people still feel free to make, this is about aggrieved people perpetrating terror onto a world that dares to challenge or refuse their fanaticism and control. This wasn’t, isn’t and will never be about Islam or any other religion or religious observance. This is about terrorists.

    • John Foskett September 11, 2014 / 10:19 am

      I disagree with the word “aggrieved” because that implies that they have been wronged. Some may have been but others have not been (I’ll wager a few of the Americans who have signed up don’t fit “aggrieved”). But yes, it’s not about religion – it’s about barbaric conduct. As an aside, the poster’s reference to Islamism is not an attack on a religion – it’s a reference to a controversial view about the proper role of Islam in society and government.

      • Sandi Saunders September 11, 2014 / 12:31 pm

        LOL, I disagree with his choice of words and you disagree with mine. What Islamism “means” and what it represents to people are not often the same IMO.

    • Lyle Smith September 11, 2014 / 10:41 am

      Saying that al Qaeda and the perpetrators of 9/11 weren’t Islamic is as profoundly stupid as trying to say that the Civil War wasn’t about slavery.

      The Islamic State call itselfs the Islamic State for good reason Sandi.

      Lets be honest with ourselves and see the people of the world for what they are. Most Muslims can distinguish between themselves and radical Islamists. We all, especially our leaders, should be capable of doing that too.

      • Sandi Saunders September 11, 2014 / 12:38 pm

        I did not say that they were not “Islamic”. Like sects of any fundamentalist persuasion, Islamic means what they claim it means to them. It does not mean they are representing or portraying Islam or Muslims. I do see the distinction. many do not and it is usually because of such comments as “it has been and continues to be about Islamism”. They had no plans to establish Sharia Law here, no efforts were going to be expended proving “Islam should guide social and political as well as personal life”. It was and remains terrorism from fanatic, fundamentalists exacting revenge. Which is why free Muslims denounced it.

      • John Foskett September 11, 2014 / 1:08 pm

        I was trying to cut you some slack and you refused to take in the rope. You’re muddling the issue here. The issue here isn’t Islam – it;s about a bunch of barbarians who masquerade under the facade of Islam while completely distorting its precepts. Just out of curiosity, enlighten me as to how “our daft leaders” are confused on that point and what they should be doing differently regarding “Islamism”.

        • Lyle Smith September 11, 2014 / 3:03 pm

          I’m not muddling anything John. Our leaders have gone out of their way to claim that al Qaeda, the Islamic State, and multitudes of other Islamists are not in fact Islamic or Muslim or at times even Islamist.

          Bush went out of his way to say that Islam means peace when it doesn’t in fact mean peace. He didn’t want Americans to hate Muslims which was nice, but he didn’t a good job of explaining why radical Islamists hijack our airplanes and flew them into our buildings. He meant well, but his commentary was ignorant and stupid.

          Just last night, the night before the anniversary of 9/11, President Obama expressly says that the Islamic State is not Islamic, when in fact they most definitely are. Every last one of them is a radicalized Islamist Muslim. There’s only one community these people come from and that is the greater Muslim community. When they’re yelling Allahu Akbar before they behead someone or fly a plane into the World Trade Tower they’re making a religious statement as much as a political statement.

          Perhaps you should read some more and try and better understand who these people are.

          http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2014/09/isis-is-not-islamic

          http://www.the-american-interest.com/garfinkle/2014/09/11/do-we-have-a-strategy-now/

          http://www.danielpipes.org/954/distinguishing-between-islam-and-islamism

          • John Foskett September 12, 2014 / 7:11 am

            Actually, you should read more – starting with the Koran . These guys no more represent Islam than the Klan’s anti-semitic stance or the slavers’ twisting of the Bible represent Christianity. Apparently they’re fooling you. They ain’t fooling me.

          • Lyle Smith September 12, 2014 / 1:01 pm

            They don’t represent all of Islam John. They represent their version of it. Not all Muslims are Islamists, but all Islamists are Muslims. These are just the cold hard facts. The al Qaeda and Islamic State guys aren’t hiding behind anything, but are out and out living the words of their faith as they see it.

            And you know John, the fact that Lee & Jackson were slaveowners and Confederates doesn’t negate the fact that they were Christians too. Food for thought John, food for thought.

      • Rosemary September 11, 2014 / 2:06 pm

        The 911 terrorists are in hell. They were sinners. Their religion does not claim them.

    • Rosemary September 11, 2014 / 2:02 pm

      Sandi, you and I could have a nice time yakking it up at a coffee shop.

  4. Pat Young September 11, 2014 / 10:01 am

    Recalling my cousin today. Prayers for all.

    • Rosemary September 11, 2014 / 2:09 pm

      God bless. Our family’s close friends are New Yorkers and lost loved ones. I am glad they have the new tower because after the attack New Yorkers kept talking about “the hole in the sky” where the twin towers were. Also glad that those who died in PA got medals of honor today — they were so wonderful.

    • Sandi Saunders September 11, 2014 / 3:37 pm

      Thank you for reminding us that the story is so extremely personally painful for so many. You move on because you have to, but you never forget.

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