Quote of the Week: November 2-8, 2014

From a passionate supporter of the Virginia Flaggers:

Just as we who have followed the history of America, especially as to the events of the War for Southern Independence and all the years hence. What we have experienced is the constant proof being played out right before your eyes that the Blacks who cause all the uproar about civil rights, about unfair opportunity, and mistreatment by the American law enforcement and judicial system, as they commit crimes and wonder why so many are in prison and are not Succeeding in jobs, in education, and other areas.

No wonder the head of the Virginia Flaggers wants God to bless white supremacist paramilitary groups.


18 thoughts on “Quote of the Week: November 2-8, 2014

  1. OhioGuy November 9, 2014 / 12:14 am

    This statement makes no sense and is not quite literate English syntax. What separates 19th Century racist leaders from 21st Century ones is a good command of the Emglish language by the former.

  2. Pat Young November 9, 2014 / 7:14 am

    Well, you prompted me to go to the blog that was the source of that quote. I see that he is also speculating about the size of Kevin Levin’s penis and that he seems intent on the Virginia flaggers releasing a sex tape of you, myself and a number of others here engaged in same-sex encounters in public.

    Concerns about sexuality and race seems completely intertwined in his self-proclaimed “defense of heritage.”

  3. Spelunker November 9, 2014 / 7:19 am

    Although, this comment from the Backsass chat box is also noteworthy. It comes from “Jerry”, who’s email address is apparently Proudfox13@gmail.com (a Google search of that email leads here: http://jerryd14.wordpress.com/2014/03/21/virginia-museum-of-fine-arts-is-unfair-to-southern-confederate-heritage/):

    ” I had a dream that liars Obama holder pelosi hung from my dock flagpole and in the morning a beautiful battle flag for our Southern people.”

    Oh my…

    • John Foskett November 9, 2014 / 1:03 pm

      Here’s my favorite line from that piece:

      “I too am a citizen, not a moron”

      That load of rambling, unpunctuated written night soil says otherwise….

  4. Stefan Jovanovich November 9, 2014 / 7:40 am

    “Racist” is becoming as useless a political accusation as “Nazi”, as OhioGuy should know. Your “racist” governor was re-elected overwhelmingly. We witnessed the final political failure of the second Reconstruction on Tuesday. The half century of judicial and legislative finding that racial preference is allowable and, indeed, necessary whatever the plain language of 14th and 15th Amendments may say, has lost its political majority. Grant would be pleased to see that his stalwart belief in equal legal rights for all citizens (including women) has finally become the common opinion.

    • John Foskett November 9, 2014 / 11:22 am

      Lighten up, Francis. You appear to fighting an imaginary war against imaginary enemies. And don’t put a whole lot of stock in biennial elections with an electorate that is fed up with both parties. There was no “revolution” last Tuesday, anymore than there was in 2012, 2010, or 2008 – whatever the the party flacks on either side were spinning at the time.

      • Stefan Jovanovich November 10, 2014 / 6:20 am

        Tuesday’s results were precisely what Grant hoped for – a national Republican Party that held local and state offices in the North and South and West. That has never occurred before in U.S. history, not even in the 1920s.

        • John Foskett November 10, 2014 / 4:14 pm

          Relax. Don;t bet assets you might need on 2016. Unless the Republicans actually try to govern and get something done, they’re the ones with 20+ seats up in that cycle. Grant probably wouldn’t give a parakeet dropping about the November 4, 2014 results.

  5. seanmunger November 9, 2014 / 9:39 am

    Wow. Just…wow. It amazes me that people think like this.

  6. OhioGuy November 9, 2014 / 10:41 am

    Well, Stefan, would you be surprised to discover I voted for Kasich? Who accused him of being a racist? If you cannot identify racism in the rant that Brook’s quoted then I don’t know what to say. I agree the term is often used by demagogs today (particularly those trying to silence dissent), but in this instance I’ll stand by my charge.

    • Stefan Jovanovich November 9, 2014 / 11:34 am




      My point was, quite simply, that as an accusation, “racist” has been made so consistently partisan that it has lost all persuasiveness. Professor Simpson’s “flag” opponents are terrible historians, and they share the unfortunate “national traits” perspective that almost everyone (but not Grant) brought to discussions about individual rights. What is truly sad is that those same racialist opinions are clearly held by a majority of elected Democrats as well; they just shift the color wheel.

      • Matt McKeon November 9, 2014 / 2:39 pm

        The only racism is people who notice racism. Therefore the screed by the passionate supporter of the Virginia flaggers is not racism,because he doesn’t seem to notice his racism. I am racist, because I think that “passionate supporter” in his generalizations about black people and fantasy about lynching the president is racist.

        I believe this is Stefan’s point.

      • Lyle Smith November 9, 2014 / 2:44 pm

        Your last sentence is so very true. Democrats ran on certain folks’ bigotries and they came up short this time.

        • Matt McKeon November 10, 2014 / 4:10 am

          Republicans, as they have been fairly consistently for the last few cycles, have been running on certain folks’ bigotry. Certain folks in this context, being Republicans.

          As far as racism and racists are concerned, there is no racism, except if you say something is racist, in which case, you become racist.

          Maybe we should move beyond calling people racists: after all there are no racists. Instead maybe we should think of racism as something you do, like the screed Brook quoted.

  7. Al Mackey November 9, 2014 / 8:00 pm

    Dumbford is still off his meds, I see.

  8. OhioGuy November 10, 2014 / 2:03 pm

    There certainly ARE racists today, and they come in all skin colors and belong to both major political parties in the US. I believe in calling them out, whenever they rear their ugly heads. I don’t want to turn this into a debate on contemporary politics, so I’ll stop there. As my favorite Civil War Era hero, Albion Tourgée would put it, I’m for a color blind society. BTW, Grant is probably #2 on my list, and he would be in essential agreement with Tourgée.

  9. Stefan Jovanovich November 11, 2014 / 5:50 am

    Perhaps we can allow Grant to have the last word on all this:

    I think a mistake was made about suffrage. It was unjust to the negro to throw upon him the responsibilities of citizenship, and expect him to be on even terms with his white neighbor. It was unjust to the North. In giving the South negro suffrage, we have given the old slave-holders forty votes in the electoral college. They keep those votes, but disfranchise the negroes. That is one of the gravest mistakes in the policy of reconstruction. It looks like a political triumph for the South, but it is not. The Southern people have nothing to dread more than the political triumph of the men who led them into secession. That triumph was fatal to them in 1860. It would be no less now….. But we made our scheme, and must do what we can with it. Suffrage once given can never be taken away, and all that remains for us now is to make good that gift by protecting those who have received it.

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