A Reminder on 11/11/14

UPDATE: Just in case cacklin’ Connie Chastain claims I’ve distorted the message of this group, here’s what they say:

Twitter Four

Told ya–these folks don’t want you to honor United States veterans even as they want to honor Confederate veterans.

Watch Connie squirm. Watch Susan disappear.

—-original post—-

Today’s Veterans Day. We thank those who have served. We note members of our family who have served in actions stretching back to the birth of the republic.

Well, not all of us. You might want to take a look at the Twitter account of a group that claims it is linked to the Virginia division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans.

Twitter One

Well, as they asked no quarter, they won’t get any from me.

Twitter Two

So it’s all about honoring service and veterans, eh? Apparently not. We’ll hear that Confederate veterans are American veterans worth honoring, but not United States veterans.

And guess who these folks embrace and endorse?

Twitter Three

That’s right … Susan Hathaway, Connie Chastain, and the Virginia Flaggers.

It will be interesting to see whether the Chief of Heritage Operations for the Sons of Confederate Veterans, Ben Jones, disavows this use of his organization’s name. I guarantee he’ll hear about it.

Once again … we honor the service and sacrifice of those who have protected the United States in war and peace by serving in the armed forces of the United Sates of America.

36 thoughts on “A Reminder on 11/11/14

  1. rortensie November 11, 2014 / 12:28 pm

    Way too many “invaders” have given the ultimate sacrifice to allow them the freedom to spout these views, which sickens me.

  2. C. Meyer November 11, 2014 / 12:38 pm

    Connie’s most recent post on our teaching is a hoot

    • Brooks D. Simpson November 11, 2014 / 2:50 pm

      Ms. Chastain has never been in my classroom, so she’s simply ignorant about my teaching and stupid to pretend otherwise. Meanwhile, we see several Flagger supporters celebrate terrorists and denounce US veterans.

      • C. Meyer November 12, 2014 / 7:41 am

        I offered her or any of her readers the chance to come to my classroom and teach a day. I explained all the lesson plans, curriculum mapping, assessment mapping and alignment to the State Standards and new C3 Standards that would need to be submitted with the lesson plan…but I doubt they will take me up on the offer.

    • Goad Gatsby November 11, 2014 / 10:11 pm

      Yes, I love it. 6 students at Texas Tech weren’t informed about the Civil War (or the right answers were edited out) therefore 6 teachers in other parts of the country aren’t doing their jobs.

      • Brooks D. Simpson November 11, 2014 / 10:34 pm

        Isn’t that really a statement about education in a southern state? Or is Connie too stupid to understand that? Maybe so. She’s indicting southern education, and she’s Exhibit A of its failures.

      • Rob Baker November 12, 2014 / 6:30 am

        If you look at the channel itself, the video creators talk about their conclusions of the video in question. They state that had these students been quizzed on this information in a normal format (class assessment), the students likely could have answered the fairly simple questions. However, they were bombarded on the street to illustrate that the average college mind is consumed with pop culture on a normal basis.

        • Brooks D. Simpson November 12, 2014 / 7:46 am

          I believe it is clear that over the past several months Ms. Chastain has become more shrill in her ranting because she is increasingly desperate. In the process she has marginalized herself and has become a target of ridicule. It is now too easy to make fun of her: responsible people do not take her seriously. Certainly I don’t. The post in question illustrates her angry frustration. That is understandable, because people openly mock her. She’s quite bitter about that.

          There is a fine line between using her as an example and calling unmerited attention to her … attention which I assure you is not unwanted by her. If she wasn’t so ridiculous, she’d be ignored, but she never fails to astonish and amuse. She’s like Jerry Dunford.

    • BorderRuffian November 12, 2014 / 7:42 am

      Corey, Corey, Corey…

      Why don’t you restart your blog instead of wasting time with these fake websites…

      • Brooks D. Simpson November 13, 2014 / 12:47 pm

        What evidence do you have that it’s fake? Detail the positions of the Twitter account in question with which you disagree.

        The problem is that y’all are embarrassed by the Twitter account, but y’all don’t really disagree with it. Y’all don’t honor United States soldiers who fought in the American Civil War. And you aren’t attacking the Twitter account directly. Skeered? Sure looks that way. Chastain can chirp all she wants on Twitter, but she doesn’t dare hallenge the account directly … because she agrees with what it says. Typical. As for you, maybe you’re a fake account, too. Sure seems that way sometimes.

        Meanwhile, we also await a list of all those thousands of Black Confederates you claim you have. You say that you’ll embarrass folks by releasing it. You embarrass yourself and your buddies by failing to do so. Maybe the problem is that you’re a fake account. Prove me wrong.

        After all, as Connie Chastain herself declares …

        “You take anonymous people at their word? Seriously?”

        So Connie’s telling us all not to take you seriously.

      • C. Meyer November 13, 2014 / 8:44 pm

        What are you talking about…I am talking about Connie Chastain’s Blog post. Are you saying Connie’s blog is Fake?

  3. Jimmy Dick November 11, 2014 / 3:23 pm

    I have zero use for the flaggers and their ignorance. We had a very nice ceremony today at our local school for veterans. The local county vets gathered, had breakfast with our kids, grandchildren, great grandchildren, and other family members. Men and women who were in uniform from as far back as WWII were present. It was the biggest gathering of Knox County veterans in the last 50 years or more. We talked about our experiences in the service of our country and the various conflicts including the ones ongoing.

    If it were left up to people like us there would never be another war. That goes for veterans of all wars and all countries. Only the idiots want war. It is very easy to talk about going to war when one is not going to be on the battlefield and that is exactly the problem for the flaggers and the rest of the secession oriented trash out there. They don’t know history. They don’t know war. They won’t be fighting if there is one.

    The best part: Every day a flagger waves a flag to prove their ignorance. Every day I educate students as do thousands of other teachers. The flaggers educate no one in their echo chamber of stupidity. They’re just like the Westboro cult. A dying remnant of ignorance with a big mouth that everyone laughs at.

  4. Daniel Franke November 11, 2014 / 3:23 pm

    Reblogged this on The Winds of War and commented:
    Ok, I can’t help but repost this. Brooks D. Simpson, known to many for his wonderful biography of Ulysses S. Grant, hits on one controversial use of Veterans Day in this post. I agree with him completely, and will return to this theme in greater depth later in the week.

  5. jclark82 November 11, 2014 / 4:49 pm

    As a veteran of the US Army and a descendant of veterans of pretty much every American war (my family consisted of mostly Kentucky Unionists) these clowns really irked me this time.

    Claiming soldiers of the United States as nothing but meddlers and invaders and saying Arlington National Cemetary is an occupied territory is insulting.

    Arlington is a place which houses the remains of our war dead. Robert E. Lee’s family forfeited any right to it when they willingly joined in a treasonous plot against the United States and it’s people in the name of perpetuating human bondage. To say those men and women who lie there after dying to defend the right for these lackwits to spout their bilious verbal vomit are occupiers is a slap in the face to this nation and its citizens.

    To say Union soldiers were invaders and that American servicemen and women are nothing but meddlers indicates these people need to leave. But not the way they want, through secession, but by just getting on a plane and going somewhere else. If you find being a US citizen intolerable then go.

    These people are moral cowards and rank hypocrites, they’ll hide behind the protection of the freedoms of this country only to degrade it for no possible positive purpose.

    The Southern Confederacy was simply treason against this nation in defense of slavery. The planter class didn’t get it’s way in the 1860 election and they subsequently cut off their collective noses to spite their faces. The positive that came from this is through the valor and ultimate sacrifice of the US serviceman this country survived and slavery was eradicated.

    I apologize for the rant Dr. Simpson, but I wasn’t going to let their garbage pass without comment.

    Also, I started typing and accidentally hit the submit button before finishing, could you delete that?

    -Jerry Sudduth Jr.

    • John Foskett November 12, 2014 / 8:20 am

      An excellent point about Arlington. Lee was fortunate. In the post-war effort to be lenient, he wasn’t punished for violating his oath and taking up arms against his country. Losing a parcel of real estate so that those whose blood was shed in righteous defense of that nation can be eternally honored is a small price indeed.

  6. Brooks D. Simpson November 11, 2014 / 5:06 pm

    Of course, Connie went into a posting frenzy about this, with her mindless lemmings shouting support. She said nothing about the Confederate heritage folks who spewed this garbage. Meanwhile, she hurried to put up posts demonstrating that she supports US veterans …. only after she read this post … as the time stamps on her own screen captures reveal. So easy. So transparent. So silent when it comes to challenging what reasonable people would see as a distortion of CSA heritage by one of its advocates. And, oh, so desperate, bitter, hateful, and dishonest.

    In other words, typical Connie Chastain. Typical Virginia Flagger spokesperson.

    Seems I struck a nerve.

  7. Jessie Alan Sanford November 11, 2014 / 6:48 pm

    Brooks can you verify the author of these despicable remarks? If he/she thinks he/she is defending the South he/she is sick in the head and needs a lot of wall to wall counseling. But if its someone who wants to disgrace Southern heritage groups by posting a false tweeter account he/she is even more despicable and lower than whale crap.

    • Brooks D. Simpson November 11, 2014 / 7:20 pm

      Can you verify that it’s a fake account? Why should it be my responsibility to defend the SCV and various groups, given how people such as the Virginia Flaggers and Connie Chastain have gone after me? You would think that if those folks don’t want to be affiliated with this sort of garbage, they would take action. Why don’t they? I don’t see Connie denouncing the site, just me.

      Or maybe you’re implying that I’m a better and fairer human being than Connie, and you trust me more than you trust her on such matters. I can’t blame you there.

      I’ve notified Ben Jones of the matter. I assume you will trust the chief of heritage operations for the SCV. Now ask your Confederate heritage friends what they’ve done to investigate this. Connie claims I’m tattling on her friend, so it’s clear she takes him as not fake. Otherwise she’d be admitting she’s an idiot and a liar. You don’t expect her to do that, do you?

      You’re just as able as anyone else to undertake the investigation you propose. Should you decline to do so, I guess we’ll know that the answer to your question isn’t very important to you. Time to own up to what some supporters of Confederate heritage say, Jessie. You don’t seem to be terribly interested in scrutinizing what they say … you’ll have to explain why.

      • Jessie Alan Sanford November 14, 2014 / 11:05 am

        You’re just as able as anyone else to undertake the investigation you propose. Should you decline to do so, I guess we’ll know that the answer to your question isn’t very important to you. Time to own up to what some supporters of Confederate heritage say, Jessie. You don’t seem to be terribly interested in scrutinizing what they say … you’ll have to explain why

        You think you know my mind and heart but unlike you I try to open minded and fair. Yes, I do know they’re some folks that defend Southern heritage who say some pretty stupid stuff and I have call them on it. You must admit folks that follow you blog can say some pretty stupid stuff also. I am trying to determine who owns this twitter site. But I would like to know how you were able to find this site, not accusing you of anything, It’s just that I am not that web savvy, maybe you could educate me on some of the finer points on searching the web.
        But one thing I don’t have to do is explain myself to you.
        Have a very Dixie day.

        • Brooks D. Simpson November 14, 2014 / 12:19 pm

          How was I able to find this site? Simple. One of the people who Connie Chastain follows, “JaneRavenQuantrill,” sent a tweet to two bloggers, including me, drawing attention to it.

          Chastain doesn’t want you to know that. However, it’s rather easy to prove by looking at Twitter archives. You can undertake that task, because you’re the one who is so curious.

          So why would someone who Chastain follows on Twitter tell me about a website that portrays Confederate heritage as it does? Are you also going to claim that it’s a fake website? Does Chastain follow fake people? Is she a fake? I leave you to explain that. It’s much easier to assume that the site is real, not least because Chastain does not disagree with its content, including its treatment of US veterans … for, lest we forget, US Civil War veterans are US veterans.

          Again: Chastain does not disagree with the content of the site. You do. Take that up with her … if you really are fair-minded.

          You ask a lot more questions here than you do of Chastain. I’m not assuming what’s in your heart: I’ve asked you why you behave as you do. Should you not want to reveal that, well, that’s your choice. I simply note that you want people to explain things to you, but you don’t want to explain things to them. One can conclude that you feel compelled to hide something for good reason.

          Enjoy another day of freedom under the Stars and Stripes made possible by the US veterans who defend our country and have for centuries … including those who fought in blue between 1861 and 1865.

          • Jessie Alan Sanford November 15, 2014 / 9:27 am

            ‘I’ve asked you why you behave as you do.”
            What behavior is that? Disagreeing with your interpretation of history? Have I not been civil on this site? You do know that I am a US veteran and have been to war to defend this country, so yes I do enjoy another day of freedom under the Stars and Stripes that I have defended.
            Do you agree with Buck that US regulars should invade the South to round up people they disagree with. I do believe that this act would be traitorous as it violates the constitution.
            As far as Mrs Chastain see explains her position pretty well on her blog so I don’t have to ask about her views. I have corresponded with her via e-mail for her side as I felt she could speak her mind without her words being dissected by the web. I would be glad to do the same with you if you prefer and I would hold our correspondence in the utmost privacy.
            Have a very Dixie day.

          • Brooks D. Simpson November 15, 2014 / 1:11 pm

            Take care, Jessie. It’s fine that you don’t answer my questions. You’ll thus understand that I’ll follow the same practice toward you. Fair is fair.

            I understand why Ms. Chastain might not want to have her thoughts subjected to scrutiny. That said, she’s very quick to tell everyone else what they are really thinking, what they really mean, and what makes them tick. No wonder she chooses fiction.

          • 9thmississippicalvary November 15, 2014 / 9:12 pm

            Fair is fair what questions would you for like me to answer?

          • Brooks D. Simpson November 15, 2014 / 9:14 pm

            Never mind, Jessie. Too late for that. Take care. Just understand that it doesn’t bother me that you disagree with my interpretation of history. But let’s stay on history from now on, okay? Are you a Mississippi or Mississippi State guy (or neither)?

          • Jessie Alan Sanford November 15, 2014 / 9:33 pm

            As a retired United States Army Infantry Officer I’d say its about time to get get a few brigades of US Regulars together and head South the finish off these traitors once and for all.
            Will you repudiate this comment? Is this what y’all want to do? Kill Americans?

          • Brooks D. Simpson November 15, 2014 / 9:48 pm

            Again, Jessie, if you want to talk history, that’s fine. But no more about blogging politics. I’ve already responded to the comment, and for you to claim that I want to kill Americans is simply nonsense. Ugly nonsense and gross stupidity, but nonsense nonetheless. Grow up. Right now you’re repeating Chastain’s nonsense, and you can do that on her blog, capisce?

            Interesting that you would tolerate treason against the United States of America or accept the word of someone who dishonors US veterans—for, as I’m sure you know, US Civil War veterans are US veterans. I’m surprised that you would feel that way.

  8. Buck Buchanan November 12, 2014 / 11:44 am

    As a retired United States Army Infantry Officer I’d say its about time to get get a few brigades of US Regulars together and head South the finish off these traitors once and for all.

    For that IS traitorous talk.

    Regulars, By God!!!

    PS: From the photo it looks like that flag is trying to get as far away from that woman (Susan Hathaway?) so as not to be associated with her.

    • Brooks D. Simpson November 15, 2014 / 4:01 pm

      Just so you know, Chastain believes this post advocates the genocide of all southerners. Then she claims that if I don’t denounce you, so am I.

      This is what passes for logic in the Confederate heritage community. Meanwhile, she remains silent about US Civil War veterans as US veterans, because she doesn’t want to honor their service.

      As I’ve said before, it’s about hate, not heritage. In Chastain’s case, judging from the series of posts she’s offered about me, it’s also a hysteria of hate. I guess she’s left Kevin Levin for the moment. At least, when she writes about me she isn’t writing stories about underage sex, violence, and so on, so that’s not so bad.

    • Brooks D. Simpson November 15, 2014 / 5:58 pm

      Prepare for more sputtering from Chastain as she says that we don’t know what she believes about this account … and she won’t tell us. Of course, when one quotes her, she says she’s being persecuted and bullied. Typical Flagger.

      “Or maybe he illegally hacks my email or Facebook or other private accounts?” I live rent-free in her head.

      • Andy Hall November 15, 2014 / 6:04 pm

        I have no idea whose account this is — but then this same man, John Booker Kennedy, was saluted by the well-known FB account “Defending the Heritage.” Maybe that one’s a false-flag operation, too. Have you ever noticed how similar the spelling of Mestas is to Sebesta?

      • Jimmy Dick November 15, 2014 / 8:39 pm

        Not to mention how she backpedals and denies it while her blog displays it openly. It doesn’t really matter. Chastain and her kind are failures and are sliding into the dustbin of history along with their lost cause. The new generation of students doesn’t care for the lost cause and their lies. These students think the flaggers are old farts trying to pass off something called history that doesn’t stand up to the facts. Most of the time they don’t even know what the flagging is about or what the lost cause is.

        • Brooks D. Simpson November 15, 2014 / 9:16 pm

          Chastain has posted eight times about me—several with updates—since Tuesday. She’s gone certifiably plumb crazy crackers.

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