News and Notes, November 23, 2014

Around the globe … the thrill of victory (Islanders sweep Penguins) and the agony of defeat (ask John Hennessy about that) …

  • Anyone have a flag pole to sell to “someone” in Virginia?
  • Whatever happened to all that fuss about Washington and Lee? Mighty quiet in Lexington these days.
  • A reminder that the dust-up about Black Confederates has been going on for a while.
  • Someone sure likes to speculate on why other people feel and think as they do …Hathaway Confusion

(no wonder it’s heritage, not history, and these people are always about hate …)

11 thoughts on “News and Notes, November 23, 2014

  1. Jimmy Dick November 23, 2014 / 9:23 am

    I started to count the mistakes she made in the post, but lost track after the first ten. Poor girl just does not understand history, but then again she has created a version to suit her beliefs. She made one correct statements in that her grandfathers thought it was a cause worth dying for. She was right, they did think slavery was worth dying for.

    • John Foskett November 23, 2014 / 2:22 pm

      How about, for starters, not even knowing when the flag came into existence. If you’re entire focus is on promoting something, shouldn’t you at least have its “vitals” wired?

  2. jarretr November 23, 2014 / 10:04 am

    I’m sure these folks have read the many books detailing the centralizing tendencies of the Confederate government during the war: you know, stuff like conscription, salt socialism, slave impressment, the appropriation of private property, the domestic passport system, treason accusations made under kangaroo courts, the suspension of Habeas Corpus and the enactment of martial law under Jefferson Davis, etc. Nothing like resisting an “overarching and oppressive central government,” eh?

    • Will Hickox November 23, 2014 / 12:27 pm

      Add to this the Slave Power’s dominance of the federal government for decades prior to secession. For people supposedly so concerned about the dangers of centralized authority, southerners were all about strengthened federal laws when they felt slavery was threatened, such as the Fugitive Slave Act.

      “All we want is to be let alone.” — Jefferson Davis, bulls**t artist.

  3. jarretr November 23, 2014 / 10:05 am

    My mistake: “overreaching,” not “overarching.”

  4. Pat Young November 23, 2014 / 11:01 am

    “Universal symbol”? She needs to get out more.

  5. John Foskett November 23, 2014 / 11:57 am

    Hopefully the Pens are still reeling tomorrow night when I’m over there to watch them take on a team currently missing 1/3 of its top 3 lines and its 6’9″ tower on D.

  6. John Foskett November 23, 2014 / 12:03 pm

    By the way, “ooops” on that 1999 article which equates hyperbole regarding Black Confederates to assumed exaggerated numbers of the Wehrmacht who had Jewish ancestry. Too bad the author didn’t have the benefit of Riggs’ 2004 book, which shows how many in the German military were “Jews” or “partial Jews” under the Nazis’ bizarre focus on racial/ethnic classification.

  7. neukomment November 23, 2014 / 12:10 pm

    If “hate” is the word to use to describe my thoughts about the confederate battle flag, it just might have something to do with how a bunch of oath-breakers opened fire on our flag in an act of traitorous rebellion, thus sparking the War to Suppress the Rebellion, and how that same symbol has been used in denying human beings basic human and civil rights solely on the basis of skin color…..

  8. Michael Rodgers November 23, 2014 / 3:51 pm

    Aaaah, got it. The CBF represents the service and sacrifice of the Confederate soldiers during the Civil War AND the political aims of any person who wants to claim that she is resisting tyranny and defying her government today, just as New Shimmer is a floor wax AND a dessert topping.

  9. Mousy Tongue November 25, 2014 / 11:51 am

    http://www.thestate.com/2014/11/22/3829567/exclusive-confederate-flag-still.html?fb_comment_id=fbc_855015771195807_855065431190841_855065431190841

    Susan Hathaway has pasted her little essay into the comments thread on a news story entitled “EXCLUSIVE: Confederate flag still divides whites, blacks in SC, Winthrop poll finds” over on thestate.com (South Carolina’s HomepageTM), where she’s been holding forth a bit more expansively on her views, along with some of her lieutenants, heavy-hitting and otherwise. For those seeking further illumination.

    It’s quite the party, as you might imagine. There might still be some snacks left if y’all want to stop by.

    PS – Hathaway even trots out this old nugget again (as previously featured on that non-academic site Mr. Foskett doesn’t go for): http://yoisthisracist.com/post/101798469400/the-inflammatory-connection-of-the-confederate

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