Connie Chastain, Plagiarist? A Pensacola Flagger Fail

A few days ago the Pensacola Flagger decided to lecture Jimmy Dick on Confederate history and heritage by telling him about the Confederate Battle Flag that used to fly at the Pensacola Bay Center.

(For a better history lesson, click here.)

Without benefit of historical documentation, the Pensacola Flagger claimed that the flag might have flown to honor the service of the 2nd Florida Infantry and its colonel, George T. Ward. Readers will recall that at times the Pensacola Flagger goes by the names of C. L. Ward and Connie Chastain Ward, which might help explain why she selected this particular regiment and its commander while giving short shrift to the service of other Florida units in the Army of Northern Virginia. Apparently their service and sacrifice doesn’t count in the mind or heart of the Pensacola Flagger.

This is what she said:

Connie plagiarism

Note the [3].

I thought the wording of this explanation was a little odd.  “Battleflag” is not one word in this context of “the Confederate Battle Flag,” and “lost his life to a shotgun wound” was a curious way to put it. Why was the “s” in “siege” capitalized?  And then there was the [3].

Mystery solved. The Pensacola Flagger simply lifted part of the second and all of the third sentence, word-for-word, from Wikipedia:

Connie Plagiarism 2

This, folks, is from a person who brags about her literary skills and how hard she finds it to write. How hard is it to cut ‘n’ paste from Wikipedia?

So much for “honor” when it comes to celebrating Confederate heritage. Here’s a person who sets aside the service of many Florida Confederate soldiers to focus on one unit (and a unit that augmented it, the Pensacola Rifle Rangers) in order to highlight the service of a namesake colonel … but then she could only recall that namesake colonel’s service by checking Wikipedia and lifting the description found there for her blog, all to teach someone a lesson.

Is this what they taught at Connie Chastain’s undergraduate institution, Alabama Christian College, now known as Faulkner University, “where students are encouraged to grow in intellect, character and service”?

No.

Connie Plagiarism three

By the terms of Connie Chastain’s own undergraduate institution, she stands before us as having committed intentional plagiarism.

So much for Confederate history, heritage, or honor, at least as practiced by the Pensacola Flagger. We expect that Chastain’s supporters will promptly rush to excuse her actions.

Perhaps they will also defend her sensahuma:

Connie humor

That’s right. Jokes about rape. (Yes, I know, she’ll say it’s a joke about feminists. She’ll just ignore why she chose this particular subject.)

Capisce?

38 thoughts on “Connie Chastain, Plagiarist? A Pensacola Flagger Fail

  1. The Lamp December 28, 2014 / 9:47 am

    How is rape funny? How does a woman find rape funny?

    • Brooks D. Simpson December 28, 2014 / 9:57 am

      Rape isn’t funny. Connie Chastain thinks it is. It’s what she calls a sensahuma. So much for southern womanhood (or complaints about Yankee soldiers). Capisce?

      • The Lamp December 28, 2014 / 10:05 am

        The MRA movement is very tied in with other nefarious movements. They are the main proponents of demonizing rape victims.

        They are usually unattractive socially inept males who live in their parent’s basements and cannot get dates and have fantasies about raping women sans any consequences.

        They are by far, some of the worst dregs of our society.

        Why an older woman in her 60’s would take up as a MRA cheerleader is beyond me.

      • Mousy Tongue January 5, 2015 / 12:18 pm

        I thought this image looked sort of weird. Take a look at the letter “g” in the punchline vs. in the set-up—that’s a fairly blatant font mismatch, no?

        I looked around and found another version circulating, without the font mismatch, and with a different punchline: “The liquid is oppressed.”

        Still not a very good joke, but nowhere near as antisocial as the version Connie presented.

        She calls it appropriate. Who does this? How is rape funny? How does a woman find rape funny? I have no idea.

  2. J. Pei December 28, 2014 / 10:03 am

    Considering what Wikipedia is–and how it functions–does the possibility not exist that Ms. Chastain might have actually authored the material that appears there? And then (when making the post now complained of) did nothing more than incorporate that material there into what she posted?

    Did you, before leveling the rather serious charges that are leveled here, perchance check with the administrators of the Wikipedia site in an effort to obtain from them clear assurances to the fact that the particular section of the article you have chose to cite here was not in fact written by Ms. Chastain?

    If you did not obtain such a report from the Wikipedia folks that clearly states they’re 100% certain that the material under discussion was not written by Ms. Chastain (while using either her given name, or a pseudonym), then aren’t you on rather shaky grounds here? And, not just from a legal standpoint, but also from the standpoint of someone one who would have other believe him to be a historian of some considerable accomplishment?

    Alternately, if you had done your due diligence here–and were able to obtain the corroboration from the Wikipedia organization that lends some credence to your charges, then why not full lay out the facts of the matter (rather than ask the reader to make the leaps of faith that are required for him, or her, to buy into your point on the matter)?

    Put in a slightly different light, why should one–after reading what it is that you’ve written here–be any more inclined to take anything that you write any more seriously than something that Ms. Chastain might write?

    And, no, I absolutely do not have any connection with Ms. Chastain. In fact, I have no idea who she is, and the first (and only) time I came across her name was when I read this, um, “learned post” of yours.

    • Brooks D. Simpson December 28, 2014 / 10:28 am

      Wow. Is this the best you can do? After all, that’s why she kept the [3] in … because it was really her work all along. Sure.

      A bright person who actually knew what they were talking about would have checked the revision notes to the article, and discovered that it was composed by Noles1984, whose history of contributions to Wikipedia is easily available.

      But you are not a bright person. In fact, you’re rather inept.

      Your desperate defense of dishonesty is noted. Hope you’re proud of yourself.

      How pathetic.

    • Brooks D. Simpson December 28, 2014 / 9:45 pm

      Connie Chastain offers the following admission:

      To J. Pei — Naw, I’ve never written anything for Wikipedia.

      End of story. Take your phony outrage elsewhere.

  3. Andy Hall December 28, 2014 / 10:23 am

    The suggestion that the Confederate Battle Flag was included in that grouping of national flags to celebrate some specific Florida regiment is a bizarre bit of retroactive rationalization for a flag design that should not have been included in that display in the first place. The more common use of the First National is such displays is (to borrow a phrase from Larry Wilmore) “not politically correct, it’s correct-correct.”

    FWIW, promoting the “Five Flags” theme as a part of what we would now call history tourism goes back more than a century in Pensacola, at least to 1910.

  4. Jimmy Dick December 28, 2014 / 10:48 am

    Looks like I missed her reply. Then again, ignoring Chastain is a good habit to have. It is a waste of time to argue with ignorant people who ignore facts in favor of fiction. I just feel sorry for her and anyone that believes what she writes.

    • Brooks D. Simpson December 28, 2014 / 10:57 am

      It’s not clear that she writes so much as practices cut ‘n’ paste.

      Never a need to argue with someone you can demonstrate is wrong, period.

  5. Brooks D. Simpson December 28, 2014 / 3:48 pm

    “That’s right. Jokes about rape. (Yes, I know, she’ll say it’s a joke about feminists. She’ll just ignore why she chose this particular subject.)”

    Prediction fulfilled. No denial of plagiarism, however.

      • Mousy Tongue December 29, 2014 / 12:26 am

        Well, did she rush to correct the oversight? Before posting another stupid flagger fantasy pic?

          • Mousy Tongue December 29, 2014 / 11:45 am

            Ah. “Oversight” really belongs in scare quotes then, doesn’t it? Although she doesn’t actually know how to use that kind of quote either. Add that to the list, alongside maps, Wikipedia, and dictionary.com.

            Perhaps it is because she doesn’t understand these things that she worships them so.

          • Brooks D. Simpson December 29, 2014 / 11:54 am

            Well, if it was an oversight that she regretted, she’d fix it, right? So now we know it was brazen and deliberate or a sign of sheer stupidity compounded by vast ignorance.

            That will keep her busy playing with Photoshop for a while … although she seems ashamed of taking a picture of herself flagging.

          • Mousy Tongue December 29, 2014 / 8:26 pm

            Any updates? Did she do the honorable thing?

          • Brooks D. Simpson December 29, 2014 / 8:33 pm

            Nope. Why? Did you think she would? She lacks integrity as well as a sensahuma. It’s rather easy to yank her chain.

          • Mousy Tongue December 30, 2014 / 11:20 am

            Now I’m hearing she refuses to honor the citation until some Paula Deen hostages are released? This sounds ugly. Guess you were right.

        • The Lamp December 29, 2014 / 10:02 pm

          Mousy- can you please tell the world that we are not the same people? Connie seems to be very confused and supposedly thinks I am you for some reason.

          She keeps calling me by your name in her senile rants.

          And while I enjoy your play on words here, I am not a Maoist, and as much as I find mice cute, I am a cat person.

          Peace and Happy New Year!

          • Brooks D. Simpson December 29, 2014 / 11:21 pm

            Your IPs define you as different people from different areas, but the truth never stopped Ms. Chastain from lying. That’s what she calls being honorable.

          • The Lamp December 29, 2014 / 11:59 pm

            Thanks for the verification, I doubt it will stop Connie’s delusional rantings. Mousy and I have very different writing styles as well. Mousy is probably a better writer than I.

          • Mousy Tongue December 30, 2014 / 7:06 am

            Confirming it: we are separate people. Is Connie saying we all look alike or something? She should apologize.

          • The Lamp December 30, 2014 / 9:02 am

            IDK, also, IDK what you look like, it could be a compliment to me from my end.🙂

          • Mousy Tongue December 30, 2014 / 10:41 am

            I think Connie is saying that anybody who notices her racism has the same hairdo? and also is the real racist? Hard to say. Happy New Year tho!

          • The Lamp December 30, 2014 / 11:32 am

            Well, I guess neither of us subscribe to her helmet hair look! LOL!

            Happy New Year to you too!

  6. Eric A. Jacobson December 29, 2014 / 1:04 pm

    I have tried to stay out of this, but I can’t help myself any longer. What I find particularly galling is Chastain’s absolute ineptitude when it comes to the Confederate military and its history. She blathers on about the flag, but I highly doubt that she can carry on any substantive conversation that doesn’t involve some long post-war application of it. In that sense, it is all about heritage (her skewed version of it). Note her bloviating about how the South was screwed by intestinal bugs, railroad scams, price manipulations, and the like until well into the 20th century as prime examples. Funny how that sounds like the very kind of victimhood she usually rails against.

    Now she also likes to talk about rape and fire (especially as it relates to Sherman and his troops), but that is also mostly post-war poppycock nonsense that was the ultimate creation of the Lost Cause movement. Chastain would throw her walker into the street if she knew how former Confederate AND Southern civilians who had lived through the oft-repeated barbarity of Sherman’s movements actually lauded and celebrated his return to Atlanta in the early 1880s. But, of course, its all about her view of heritage – facts be damned.

    Also, most people like Chastain conveniently forget that schools and highways were named for Forrest, Lee, et al, almost 100 years AFTER the war, and as a show of defiance against the winds of change that were blowing in the mid-20th century. Same with the battle flag and battle flag displays that went up and then inevitably came down. They can scream “heritage” violations all they want, but that is false. It’s called time moves on and things change. And sometimes, things just change.

    Some folks in Brooklyn and Baltimore have never gotten over their teams leaving them. Same with marriages, and Presidents, and friends, and on and on. Yes, it seems Chastain has a hard time with the ol’ life sometimes sucks mantra.

    Capisce?????

    I can provide endless quotes about how Confederate soldiers viewed the battle flag, and how in the post-war years they were very particular about how it should be displayed and by whom. I doubt they would agree with this bantering, and bickering, and fussing about the flag going up and the flag going down and the lack of the flag being flagged because they didn’t see it as a necessary public display. I’m sure Chastain and others will claim to speak for the veterans, but they have about as much right to that as I do, or anyone else.

    I say let her flag away. It won’t accomplish a thing, except to make her feel good, and if that works for her then so be it. I’ll send her new tennis balls if she needs them in 2015.

    P. S. – In closing, no sensible person repeatedly quotes the meaning of words from the dictionary. It such a sign of someone who really doesn’t understand the meaning of droll, even if its meaning was quoted from said online dictionary (or an old fashioned printed one).

    • John Foskett December 29, 2014 / 2:59 pm

      There are some interesting analogies in there. For example, the Doyers leaving the Borough. Everything about O’Malley – nothing about Czar Robert (Moses). Technically, of course, the Brooks have a case – but the object of their ire would be Flushing/Queens, not El Pueblo de Nuestra Senora la Reina de Los Angeles.

    • Jimmy Dick December 29, 2014 / 6:12 pm

      Let’s face it, Chastain is going to her grave some day in the future like we all are. She will be going to hers as a bitter, angry, and ignorant woman who for the short period of time she is remembered by anyone will be remembered as that crazy lady with the flags.

  7. Eric A. Jacobson December 30, 2014 / 9:06 am

    Ha!!!! And now (according to Ms. Pensacola) I’ve had a nervous breakdown!!! The ol’ gal really is pretty funny. And just like I expected, she said if Confederates were alive today they would agree with her. Of course they would. Of course they would. 🙂

    • Brooks D. Simpson December 30, 2014 / 9:20 am

      The Pensacola Pariah tends to think that anything written here must be because of the issues she experiences in her own daily life. When she says someone else is having a nervous breakdown, we can assume she’s the one who is collapsing.

      I want to thank you here for all you’ve done to preserve and promote the battlefield at Franklin. Your actions have done much to remember and honor the men who fought there.

  8. Eric A. Jacobson December 30, 2014 / 10:08 am

    Thanks. The work in Franklin continues and we are now raising $2.8 million to purchase/reclaim the next crucial part of the battlefield. We have saved almost 200 acres in the past decade, and all the while without defaming Forrest, or Sherman, or Hood, or putting up flags, or taking them down. In fact, I’ve seen two Confederate battle flags on poles just this morning – right where they have been for decades. One even flies right next to the Stars and Stripes – imagine that. 🙂

    Meanwhile, Ms. Pensacola and “Hey Arnold” Roden can continue their string of keyboard victories while simultaneously getting right on their next work of fiction.

  9. Mousy Tongue January 6, 2015 / 10:05 am

    More Connie plagiarism! Famously she writes:

    “… Southern women have historically been ladies, and no lady calls people low-class and cretins. A cretin, btw, is someone who suffers from cretinism, a congenital disease due to absence or deficiency of normal thyroid secretion, characterized by physical deformity, dwarfism, and mental retardation, and often by goiter. How high-class and lady-like is it to show such callous disregard for people who suffer …”

    Dictionary.com, “cretinism”:

    a congenital disease due to absence or deficiency of normal thyroid secretion, characterized by physical deformity, dwarfism, and mental retardation, and often by goiter.

    Sly touch with the “offhand” “btw,” “CW”!

      • Mousy Tongue January 7, 2015 / 11:12 am

        Just the tip of the iceberg. She has a problem. She admits as much, but she’s stuck there. She can’t help herself. Maybe these CSA Anonymous folks can.

        A plagiarist, btw, is someone who suffers from plagiarism.

      • Mousy Tongue April 16, 2015 / 10:03 am

        And it’s not like it’s Lani’s first time either.😦

        Remember that one CSA Anonymous meeting? where Lani keened, “no way the little cretin is doing this on his own. NO WAY.

        Well, no way was Connie gonna let that one go. She had prepared herself for circumstances just such as this. Principle before personality — always.

        Connie raised herself up like a cobra and struck back. “Are you a woman, [Lani Burnette Rinkel]? I suspect not, because Southern women have historically been ladies, and no lady calls people low-class and cretins.”

        And that is the story of how Connie regards Lani Burnette Rinkel.🙂

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