Susan Hathaway and the Virginia Flaggers: In Bed With AntiSemite White Supremacists?

Next Friday Susan Hathaway and the Virginia Flaggers will travel to Lexington, Virginia, where they will protests decisions made by the city of Lexington and Washington and Lee University concerning the display of the Confederate flag. Nothing new there. However, recent information shared with Crossroads merits attention apart from the usual weekly roundup of Confederate heritage activities and once more raises serious questions about the company Hathaway and the Flaggers keep in their efforts to “promote” Confederate heritage.

At first glance First Freedom.Net strikes one as your usual white supremacist/nationalist site. It is only when one examines The First Freedom’s monthly newsletter that we discover something that should trouble people who claim that Crossroads has been unfair to Susan Hathaway and the Virginia Flaggers. Take the July 2014 issue, downloadable here. The newsletter’s motto? “Inviting the Zionist controlled media′cracy to meet a rising Free South.” Well, that’s a bit disturbing, although Crossroads has before highlighted antiSemitic strains in the blogs of a few Confederate heritage advocates (as well as frantic claims that some of them aren’t really antiSemites … own what you believe, cowards). Page two reveals that rabid Confederate heritage advocate Valerie Protopapas serves on the newsletter’s “editorial faculty” (and she contributes an article on page eleven). Page five includes an article by “Hunter Wallace,” better known in real life as Brad Griffin of the League of the South.

Guess what appears on page nine?

TFFjuly2014VF

Note that “the Masked Walnut” from southernnationist.com speaks of “we” when referring to the Virginia Flaggers.

The January 2015 issue of The First Freedom offers more evidence of the sorts of people who endorse the efforts of Hathaway and the Virginia Flaggers … and a special surprise. On page three the League of the South’s Michael Hill reassures readers of the eventual triumph of the LoS’s principles. There are a series of articles spewing hate at various targets, epitomized by this caption on page twenty: “The one at center right is probably a lightly-mongrelized Latrino, and not a Jewess. It’s children will likely be even more abominable.” And on and on and on and on.

These folks should hire Jerry Dunford as a special correspondent.

And then we turn to page five:

TFFjan2015p5

I’m waiting to hear that Susan Hathaway knows nothing about this (and I think we know that she will not denounce the association with white supremacists and bigots … she’s as skeered of doing that as she is skeered of flagging the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts … don’t want to lose those travel/speaking opportunities, right?).

Now, y’all know how this will go. Connie Chastain will scream and rant; Susan Hathaway will lose her voice; and others will counterattack … but they won’t denounce, and they won’t disassociate themselves from their comrades. Ask Matthew Heimbach.

Over the years Crossroads has carefully documented the ties between the Virginia Flaggers and various white supremacist and nationalist  movements. There’s no need to revisit that now. But I wonder whether Susan Hathaway will make herself available to the Lexington media next Friday and Saturday … because you never know what might be asked.

63 thoughts on “Susan Hathaway and the Virginia Flaggers: In Bed With AntiSemite White Supremacists?

  1. Charles Persinger January 9, 2015 / 12:22 pm

    It’s apparent that Susan and the Flaggers are racists but, I think stupidity and ignorance accounts for most of their problems.

  2. Alan January 9, 2015 / 1:25 pm

    The “Masked Walnut” is apparently a guy named Andrew Tracey of the League of the South.

  3. Sarah January 9, 2015 / 1:51 pm

    What blows me away is that the publisher charges $25 a year for a subscription or $100 for four years. Whether or not the Virginia Flaggers receive any kind of monetary support or otherwise from White Supremacists is inconsequential, the important thing not to lose sight of here is that White Supremacists might receive support due to the support of the Flaggers. Someone reading Hathaways words in the pages of this garbage might be moved to support it, that to me is why the group needs to come out against this.

    • Eek-a-mouse January 9, 2015 / 2:53 pm

      Not denouncing the LOS or not chasing white supremacists off of the sidewalk or not sending their money back is tacit agreement with what they say. They’ll hide behind some perverted idea of free speech/we don’t tell people what to think, but as long as they are riding supremacist coat tails to publicity/foot soldiers/$$$$ they are complicit

      • Brooks D. Simpson January 9, 2015 / 3:07 pm

        Clearly they are willing to solicit money from these groups. I still predict silence. But I don’t think this is going to go away.

  4. Alan January 9, 2015 / 2:00 pm

    Hathaways article appears directly above an advertisement for the 2015 Soldiers of the Cross Training Institute, which has been dubbed a “Klan Kamp” by the SPLC:

    http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/06/17/teaching-intolerance-‘klan-kamp’-to-open-in-ozarks/

    The group is run by Thom Robb, the leader of the Knights Party (KKK) along with co-founders and well known Neo-Nazis Paul Fromm and Billy Roper. The Kamp is open to children as young as 16 according to the SPLC. I think I’m going to go puke now. It defies all logic why the Flaggers and their leader can’t bring themselves to denounce this.

    • Brooks D. Simpson January 9, 2015 / 3:09 pm

      You assume that they disagree with this. There is no reason to assume that.

  5. leo January 9, 2015 / 2:32 pm

    These idiots give life to the Southern stereotype and I am sick of it!

    • Brooks D. Simpson January 9, 2015 / 3:09 pm

      I believe that many (indeed most) white southerners find this sickening and disturbing. It is up to them to contest the Virginia Flaggers’ claim that they represent southern heritage.

  6. Goad Gatsby January 9, 2015 / 4:27 pm

    I expect a response from the Virginia Flaggers is in order. And by response I mean flags.

    • Brooks D. Simpson January 9, 2015 / 6:16 pm

      And I expect that Ben Jones and the Sons of Confederate Veterans will turn a blind eye or cite the First Amendment … an amendment that also gives them the right to denounce bigotry and distance themselves from this garbage. Somehow Ben hasn’t learned that, but he has 1200 books.

  7. Al Mackey January 9, 2015 / 6:42 pm

    I’m surprised there’s not already an all-caps, misspelled, profanity-laced rant from Dumbford in that newsletter. He’d fit right in.

    I agree, that stupid name “Masked Walnut” is something Norwood would use.

    • Brooks D. Simpson January 9, 2015 / 6:46 pm

      Someone else has been credited with that nickname. Besides, “weasel” is so much more Tripp.

  8. The Lamp January 9, 2015 / 7:14 pm

    Reblogged this on The Lamp.

  9. Patrick Young January 9, 2015 / 8:16 pm

    Given how close she lives to me, it seems odd that I have never run into Valerie Protopapas, I see she spoke at the Civil War Round Table in Huntington last year. Most of her writing is for groups in the South. Odd decision on where to live, given her proclivities.

    • khepera420 January 9, 2015 / 11:39 pm

      Vile Valerie particularly disgusts me because of her being stain on the Orthodox faith. But I guess it’s always been part and parcel of that lot’s schtick to lay claim to having God on their side..

  10. Brooks D. Simpson January 10, 2015 / 12:46 pm

    Sometimes Virginia Flagger spokeswoman Connie Chastain, who often boasts that she knows things about the VF that we don’t know and who is Susan Hathaway’s “heavy hitter,” offers the following observation:

    The head flogger is waiting to hear that the activist knew nothing about this.

    I think that’s exactly the case. First, despite all the imaginary “associations” between heritage and racism discussed in the floggasm, there’s nothing to indicate there is any such association. Paths occasionally and inadvertently crossing is not an association.

    Note Connie’s continuing obsession with sex. Note also that she does not know anything–she thinks, but she doesn’t know. Think she’s going to ask?

    The associations are not imaginary. They are documented. Indeed, one of the great things about the Virginia Flaggers is that they expose these associations themselves. Recall how Tripp Lewis called Matthew Heimbach a “good guy”? How would he know if there was no association?

    Here’s Susan and Matt marching side-by-side:

    Hathaway and Heimbach: No Accident

    And here’s Susan smiling on the streets of Lexington with another white nationalist, Shane Long:

    Hathaway and Long: Smiles All Around

    We are used to Connie lying and dissembling. She confuses her persistence in these endeavors with skill in practicing them, as is the case with her writing.

    Now, either Connie speaks for Susan or she does not. If she does, then her flailing around amounts to a “no comment.” If she doesn’t, then let Susan speak for herself.

    So thanks, Connie. I’m sure the media coverage in Lexington will find this information … informative.

    • Mousy Tongue January 10, 2015 / 2:27 pm

      The LoS is directing their Lexington demonstrators to sign up through the Virginia Flaggers. It’s what the Flaggers call inclusiveness, but not association, with love from Pensacola.

      • Brooks D. Simpson January 10, 2015 / 2:45 pm

        But Connie says the Virginia Flaggers have nothing to do with such groups. So Connie’s either lying or ignorant. Sometimes she is both.

  11. Alan January 10, 2015 / 2:50 pm

    In addition, if you go to the “Going” section of the VA Flaggers Facebook even, you will find that many of the White Nationalist League of the South members have indicated that they are going to the event. These include: Shane Long, Dennis Durham, Jamie Farren, “Virginian Southron”, Tommy Dail and Josh Newcomb. What’s interesting is that all of their names are sandwiched right in-between some of the biggest names in the VA Flaggers: Susan Hathaway, Tripp Lewis, Grayson Jennings and Billy Bearden. The VA Flaggers know darn well who is coming to their event, and apparently, they don’t care. On top of that, one of the White nationalists in the League of the South, Dennis Durham, has been promoting this event heavily on Facebook, including sharing the link on the Council of Conservative Citizens Facebook page on January 7th, Renee Baum Griffin, wife of White Nationalist Brad griffin (also the daughter of Gordon Baum, the leader of the CoCC) liked Durham’s post. They can’t even pretend they don’t know, it’s obviously clear they do and don’t give a horses behind that White Nationalists will be there alongside them. That’s what I call “Confederate Supremacy”.

    • Brooks D. Simpson January 10, 2015 / 3:15 pm

      This is why, after all, Susan Hathaway herself remains silent. Now, Connie Chastain will rant, “How does Simpson know she’s been silent? Maybe she simply hasn’t told Simpson.” Well, let’s put it this way … Susan knows about the column. A check of Twitter reveals that. Chastain herself doesn’t know what’s going on by her own admission. Do you really think Susan would attack her buddies?

      She’s skeered.

      She’s also not the only Virginia Flagger who has been in TFF.🙂

    • Goad Gatsby January 11, 2015 / 1:53 am

      I was blocked from the fb page after I decided to click “going.” I never posted anything, but I got blocked. It’s a shame that the Virginia Flaggers will block me (even though they did my genealogy to find out I have at least 12 Confederate ancestors) but let all the white nationals stay on the page.

      • Jimmy Dick January 11, 2015 / 11:11 am

        It shows their refusal to learn because they refuse to listen to any other point of view. They have locked themselves in an endless echo chamber of ignorance.

      • Daniel Lewis October 17, 2016 / 3:07 pm

        I was blocked from The Virginia Flaggers’s FB page as well for debunking her BS Southern Mythology.

    • Brooks D. Simpson January 10, 2015 / 5:54 pm

      Connie’s getting desperate … she’s now suggesting that I sent the articles to TFF on Twitter.

      She’s also pretending to talk to me on her blog’s little message widget and claiming that I’m “stealing” pictures from her. Really? Especially since I was asleep at the time she claims said “theft” happened.

      How hapless can you get? (Connie now protests that she is not hapless. Fine. She is pathetic. I just thought that with all her problems, she was unfortunate. Apparently she believes that she deserves what she gets. Fair enough … pathetic works.)

      Is this the best the Virginia Flaggers can do? Entrust their message to the crazy Pensacola Pariah? Wow.

      • The Lamp January 11, 2015 / 1:32 pm

        I think she is attributing the trolls who are going after her to the only people she knows. The fact is, her troll opposition seems to be growing and most likely they are people she doesn’t even know.

        • Brooks D. Simpson January 11, 2015 / 5:57 pm

          I’ve never commented on her blog or any widget and I have no intention of doing so. Apparently she’s so desperate for attention that she claims otherwise.

          • The Lamp January 11, 2015 / 6:15 pm

            She believes I am an assortment of characters, as you know I am not

  12. Jimmy Dick January 10, 2015 / 4:35 pm

    Let’s just predict what will happen. A bunch of ignorant white rednecks are going to show up waving the CBF while saying historians don’t know history. Not a single one of the ignorant white rednecks will have a degree in history. Most of them will not have a degree at all. They will be laughed at by everyone, but will claim that the audience loved them. NOT A DAMN THING WILL CHANGE DUE TO THEIR ACTIONS.

    The CBF will not be flown in Lexington in the manner the idiots want. The CBF will not be restored to the chapel. The only thing that will change will be the increase of people who reject the ignorance the ignorant white rednecks display by waving their flags and whining about their made up heritage. Yet, the idiots will refuse to believe that while they also stand side by side with white supremacists.

    What I do expect is a lot of pictures and a lot of film taken of these idiots which will be shown all across the US to prove that the flaggers are racists and white supremacists. So every time they run their mouths about their heritage, pictures will be shown to prove it is not history, but hate the flaggers support.

    They are living proof that stupid is as stupid does. Where is Ben Jones with his support? Is Cooter going to show up at the event or is he going to be smart enough to be far away from this debacle?

  13. Rob Baker January 10, 2015 / 4:52 pm

    These people make me want to throw up.

  14. Leo January 10, 2015 / 6:06 pm

    Jimmy nailed it!

  15. Sarah January 12, 2015 / 6:00 am

    Where to start? So it appears that Chastain is in full fledged damage control mode, but it looks as though she’s only doing more damage. She emailed the editor of The First Freedom, a guy by the name of Olaf Childress and asked him if he had Hathaways permission to reprint her article. This was his reply:

    “Greetings, Connie. No, I thought it was in the public domain. Why, is she angry or something?”

    The first thing that strikes me as odd is the claim that her article is in the “public domain.” Here’s the definition of public domain:

    “Works in the public domain are those whose intellectual property rights have expired, have been forfeited, or are inapplicable. Examples include the works of Shakespeare and Beethoven, most of the early silent films, the formulae of Newtonian physics, and powered flight.”

    It doesn’t appear that Hathaways work fits that description.

    It’s odd that he asks if she was angry, because that’s entirely the point, isn’t it? I think it’s reasonable for anyone to expect that she might be angry by this. There does not appear to be any anger or concern whatsoever. The editor admits that he did not have her permission to reprint. The editor also charges money for his Newsletter. That means that he is possibly making money off of Hathaways words. She doesn’t appear to have any problems with this at all. I’d be pretty ticked off if my work was published on the same page as an advertisement for a Ku Klux Klan camp for children, but instead we see nothing from the VA Flagger camp, not even so much as a simple statement.

    Chastain next accuses you of slander, which would mean you’ve said something untrue, although I haven’t found anything untrue in your post, and although she is claiming this, I haven’t seen her point out any examples. Then she questions why you are concerned with the group, as if you, or anyone else does not have the same rights that they do under freedom of speech protections. The Virginia Flaggers put themselves out there in the public and make themselves open to criticism and scrutiny. They are holding public events, and they can’t expect people to not be watching, noting, and even reporting on what they are doing. They are making themselves a story, and all you are doing is creating discussion about the story which is a healthy thing to do. One of the overarching themes of their entire schtick is that the CBF isn’t a racist symbol, and Confederate Heritage advocates aren’t racists. The rest of the world does have a right to examine that. As long as you aren’t posting things that aren’t true, I don’t understand what the problem is? I don’t think anyone said Susan Hathaway gave permission. I think there was a question of whether she had or not. Now that we know she didn’t, it really makes her silence all the more troubling.

    Chastain next attempts to cast doubt on the information because you don’t reveal your “informant.” What does it matter? The information is either true or false. Your post claims Susan Hathaways work was included in the newest issue of The First Freedom. It was. Knowing who passed that information on doesn’t matter because the information checks out.

    The most revealing thing though is that Chastain feels that you pointing out that Hathaways work was reprinted in the Newsletter is damaging to the group. She recognizes that it is a negative. That’s the revelation here. Even though she thinks that is a negative, still silence from the Flaggers. So what is really damaging, you pointing out the truth, or the silence of the group? In my opinion, the latter. The former is just factual.

    It’s not just the newsletter though. There’s been no distancing from the Council of Conservative Citizens apparent promotion of their past event. There’s been no call for White Nationalists who have indicated that they will be attending their event on their own group run Facebook page not to come, or even to simply say they don’t support them. It’s true, they can’t police who will show up, but they know who plans to, and still, nothing. Not a peep. That’s my take.

    • Brooks D. Simpson January 12, 2015 / 10:51 am

      If Chastain thought that an association with the group was damaging, why is she on a first name basis with the editor? It’s just like her whining about her on-again, off-again “relationship” with Michael Hill.

      Chastain’s own blog and comments elsewhere suggest she’s not all that unhappy with what TFF preaches.

      • Sarah January 12, 2015 / 1:22 pm

        More on the “public domain” aspect referred to by Childress. Her words also appear to be altered from the original post slightly. Saying nothing can be construed to be implied consent despite the group going out of their way to claim Copyright with All Rights Reserved on their blog. Apparently in the VA Flagger world, “All Rights” just means some when it’s convenient?

        “The Virginia Flaggers’ Blog
        Original Material Copyright © 2013 – 2015
        by the Virginia Flaggers.
        All Rights Reserved”

        “”All rights reserved” is a phrase that originated in copyright law as a formal requirement for copyright notice. It indicates that the copyright holder reserves, or holds for their own use, all the rights provided by copyright law, such as distribution, performance, and creation of derivative works; that is, they have not waived any such right.”

  16. Sarah January 12, 2015 / 6:27 am

    “In addition to the above activities, they attend public heritage events. They can’t control the guest list unless it’s their own event, so anyone can show up, and they sometimes get photographed together.”

    I missed this originally, but just noticed that Chastain admits that the group “can’t control the guest list unless it’s their own event.” This coming Friday and Saturday is THEIR OWN EVENT. They have the guest list. White Nationalists are on it. So why the silence? If you know White Nationalists are planning on being there, and you don’t voice any concerns or opposition, what is anyone supposed to believe other than you might support it?

    “So, Shane Long is at a heritage event, and sees the well-known VaFlagger founder and asks to have a selfie made with her, and it takes all of five seconds and that’s what Simpson conceptualizes as an association? ”

    This is a great point. She chose to have a selfie made with a White Nationalist. Don’t we all? Why is it that White Nationalists are even at Heritage events? Is it because there’s cross-over between the two groups and ideologies? Could it be that “Heritage” is just White Nationalism light?

    “Have you sent it to the media covering Lexington? Do you imagine they’ll report it without verifying it with the tabloid’s editor, the way you were so slaveringly itchy to do? If you send it to them, and they contact the editor, do you imagine they might find it more informative (and a lot more interesting) to ask why some mendacious professor over a thousand miles away is sending them slanderous material….”

    Again, what is slanderous about pointing out that her work was reprinted in that paper? That’s a fact. It’s possible that if the media even cared to cover the event, they might ask some of the same questions that are being asked now. What does Chastain mean by “verifying it?” Verifying that the paper didn’t have her permission to publish? That’s established, so I doubt they’d waste the time. The better question to ask would be why does it seem like there’s no concern?

    • Brooks D. Simpson January 12, 2015 / 10:49 am

      Well, Chastain is on a first-name basis with the editor of the newsletter in question, as she recently revealed. Why that is I leave you to determine. Suffice it to say that Susan Hathaway has remained silent on this issue, regardless of what Chastain says.

    • Jimmy Dick January 12, 2015 / 11:32 am

      What I love is they deny the CBF is a racist symbol while working with people who use it a racist symbol. The hilarious part is they continually fail to understand that is why no one believes them on anything. They shoot themselves in the foot before they even step out of the door.

      • Sarah January 12, 2015 / 1:34 pm

        Someone apparently named “George” who apparently also goes by “coldsouthernsteel” is claiming they can’t find any evidence of hate or racism in the pages of TFF. Really? No doubt they aren’t trying and/or feel the same way and therefore don’t recognize it. I think calling African American protesters “Silverbacks” would qualify. Maybe that’s why Confederate Heritage types feel so strongly they aren’t racists, they aren’t able to see it in themselves. My guess is that Connie sees it because she seems awfully concerned of how bad they could look if they can’t tamp this down.

        • Jimmy Dick January 12, 2015 / 6:12 pm

          George is well known for making all kinds of claims that have been conclusively proven to be false and then repeating the same claim over and over again. The man lives in denial. He has never met a fact yet that he can’t deny or ignore. It’s the Emperor’s Clothes situation for him and the neo-confederates.

      • Alan January 12, 2015 / 1:41 pm

        Yes. Spot on Jimmy! That CBF is terribly hard to miss right at the top of the page. I scanned back through back issues, and for a few months it looks like the paper switched to using that Black Cross flag that the League of the South was pushing so heavily, but they’ve since gone back to a clearly recognizable symbol of the Souths hatred.

  17. hunglikejesus January 15, 2015 / 8:28 am

    Why do these people still pretend that this flag is something other than a smybol of terrorism, murder and hate?

  18. Andy Hall January 15, 2015 / 11:09 am

    Jimmy Dick left a comment on my blog in 2013 that applies here. He was talking about the Virginia Flaggers’ warm embrace of Matt Heimbach — at least until he became a public embarrassment to them, when it became “Matt Who?” — but it’s more broadly true of the relationship between the Flaggers, Childress, the League of the South, the Stormfronters, and all those rancid folks:

    It’s pretty conclusive that the Virginia Flaggers are like a lot of groups of various types out there. They don’t want to prevent anyone from their groups because they really don’t have that many people without the extremists. The extremists don’t have a problem expelling anyone from their groups once they take them over like the League of the South is doing.

    And that’s essentially it. The Flaggers get really angry when someone points out a connection or affinity between them and someone like Childress, Heimbach, or Shane Long, but neither will they take any real action to denounce them or definitively exclude them from their wider circle of supporters. They can’t, because they need them.

    • Jimmy Dick January 15, 2015 / 2:57 pm

      They made a Faustian bargain with the devil and it is a losing proposition for them. It is really pathetic because first of all they’re desperate for attention and that is translated in pure numbers. They cannot get the numbers they need to generate an image of a lot of people. So they will take anyone to get to the numbers. They look at a photo and see people waving flags. When it gets pointed out exactly who those people are, they ignore it. What they are relying on is for people to be ignorant so they can play the shell game. The problem for the flaggers is they are the ignorant people because they have made three mistakes in getting that picture to exist.

      The first mistake is believing in a lie, the lost cause myth. Anyone who believes in that myth is ignorant. There is a reason why few people believe in it any more and that is because the facts just do not support it.

      The second mistake is allowing the racist scum to fill their ranks. As the pathetic waving of flags fails to change anyone’s minds, those racist scum are going to want to take more drastic actions and cross the line from being loons to lunatics. The racist scum have shown a willingness to break the law and use violence, intimidation, and outright murder to force their views on people. They are doing it right now and the loons refuse to acknowledge it because they are desperate.

      The third mistake is in thinking Americans are stupid. Not just stupid for being gullible to believe the lost cause lie, but to be stupid enough to ignore the fact that the flaggers openly consort with racist scum. The evidence is overwhelming. The pictures damn them in the court of public opinion.

      Of course, what do you expect out of a group that aids and abets kidnappers of small children?
      http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/parent/megan-elizabeth-everett/view

      We could say that is the fourth mistake because when this criminal is apprehended and that will happen eventually, the names of those that helped her will be revealed. Some people had better be saving money for their legal defense in a court of law.

  19. KSe February 25, 2015 / 3:15 pm

    Well, fun fact, I dared share this interesting post to a Civil War group on faccebook and within minutes received two threatening messages by Ms. Hathaway’s cronies, telling me to “Cease and desist – that’s an order” and to stop talking about Ms Hathaway, as a Southern Lady I should only say nice things about her. That of course only endears the Flaggers and their cause even more to me.

  20. KSe February 26, 2015 / 11:12 am

    I was I have to admit, especially since I had not said anything about Ms. Hathaway at all. It goes to show, in my opinion, that their grasp on reality is a bit shaky, not to mention that you hit a nerve in a big way if they react this way.

  21. Mousy Tongue November 7, 2015 / 11:04 am

    Oops, she did it again. Susan has a new article in this month’s issue of The First Freedom. November 2015, p. 5:

    http://firstfreedom.net/1.pdf

    This time she gets top billing. Her story is incorporated into the masthead on the first page.

    • Brooks D. Simpson November 7, 2015 / 11:41 am

      Silent Susie just can’t help herself. She’s just too skeered to put more on the line.

  22. Mousy Tongue December 4, 2015 / 12:01 am

    Guess who’s rounding out the year with her THIRD article in The First Freedom🙂

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