The Past Two (Boring) Weeks in Confederate Heritage: February 2, 2015

CSA rage

Several weeks ago I prepared the usual TWICH post to cover events during Lee-Jackson Day. Then I thought about it. There would be no real surprises. Indeed, there were several things I expected (such as a new flag going up … I called Lexington as a possible site some time ago). Then more interesting subjects came before me. So I now offer this, largely out of obligation, and with adjustments made to reflect the passage of time. However, I warn you: there are no spoiler alerts, because nothing much happened.

Besides, I now know that posting this will puzzle Gary Gallagher. So here we go …

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Several weekends ago (and Monday, January 19) people celebrated Lee-Jackson Day. On Monday, January 19, people also celebrated Martin Luther King, Jr., Day. Wonder what the overlap was?

As promised, the Virginia Flaggers went to Lexington on Friday, January 16, where their numbers on that first day were not impressive. They did nothing that one would not have expected. They raised another flag behind a car rental agency; Tripp flew his drone; and on Saturday the Flaggers took credit for a turnout on Saturday while remaining silent about some of those folks who turned out with them. Indeed, other than trespassing on NPS property to raise a Confederate flag at Guinea Station (some of you know it as where Stonewall Jackson died, although Ulysses S. Grant established temporary headquarters there during the Overland Campaign), the Virginia Flaggers did nothing of note, although they got their pictures taken.

Kevin Levin highlighted how a group of high school students made fun of the Flaggers, although some Flaggers were not aware of it. One of the students shared his reasoning with Kevin. Kevin also deplored other aspects of the Flaggers’ protest. Andy Hall reminded us once more of the ineffectiveness of the Flaggers’ call to boycott the city  businesses.

Meanwhile, Virginia Flaggers spokesperson Susan Hathaway remained silent about evidence that suggests that at best the Virginia Flaggers find warm supporters among white southern nationalists and white supremacists … and at worst that they are arm-in-arm. Draw your own conclusions.

Brad Griffin, who still sometimes styles himself Hunter Wallace (as he did for some time on this blog) offers his reflections on how both the Virginia Flaggers and the West Florida Flaggers (sic) fit into his understanding of the world. Brad continues to try to distance himself from what he calls “Rainbow Confederates,” but when he claims that people like Connie Chastain are “focused exclusively on defending Confederate memory and generally [eschew] interest in contemporary issues,” he clearly hasn’t read her blog. Chastain and Griffin are joined at the hip when it comes to race and religion. Thus the only reason I can see Griffin trying to distance himself from some folks is because he thinks they are incompetent and working with them is counterproductive and even embarrassing.

Perhaps Brandon Dorsey of the SCV feels the same way, having announced that his organization does not approve of all the tactics of the Flaggers.

That claim stung some people. In her blog Chastain offered a series of picture of Hathaway posing with various SCV officials to show that she’s in good with the SCV. Of course, we’ve also posted pictures of SCV officials with white supremacists and of Susan with white supremacists and nationalists. We accept Chastain’s reasoning that to pose with such people is to show support for their actions. Otherwise her entire argument would be nonsense.

That Chastain actually linked to the article containing Dorsey’s comment because she believed it reflected positively on the Flaggers’ activities suggests that she has a reading comprehension problem about as insurmountable as her inability to write compelling prose.

No sign of Ben Jones, the chief heritage officer of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, at this past weekend’s events. That’s curious, given that Jones was appointed in part because the SCV was very interested in reversing Washington and Lee’s decision concerning the display of Confederate flags in the Lee Chapel. This January marked the first Lee-Jackson commemoration since that decision was announced.

In contrast, the Southern Nationalist Network had no problem writing up a positive report of the event.

I’m sure you want to see how some Confederate heritage advocates honored the Confederate Battle Flag. Here are some examples:

lexington 2015 CSA horse 1

That’s right, a saddle blanket. Let’s just sit on it, shall we?

Lexington 2015 CSA dog

Nothing says Confederate heritage like a dog wrapped in the battle flag.

Meanwhile, as Andy Hall points out, it’s been two years since Tripp Lewis claimed he was assaulted and threatened to sue people. Nothing’s happened. Andy reminds us why that’s important … and so where did the money go? To buy Trippy boy a drone?

Finally, although the Gulf Coast Flaggers West Florida Flaggers (sic) continue (s) to struggle, there’s a sign that things may be on the upswing in Pensacola, especially if those folks follow my observation about an appropriate flag to fly. On February 5 the Escambia County Commission will meet to decide what it should do moving forward with the Pensacola Bay Center’s flag display.

We’ll seek your opinion on what you think the Commission will do (not what you would like it to do, although we’ll ask that, too) rather soon. However, those of you who don’t like reading so much about Confederate heritage here should want a First National flag to replace the Battle Flag, because that would leave the West Florida Flaggers (sic) with nothing to do (aside, of course, from a claim that the WFF might have had something to do with the result, although there is no evidence for that). If that circus left town, and with the Virginia Flaggers condemned to repeating themselves, my already flagging attention (see what I did there?) would indeed turn elsewhere.

After all, Confederate heritage outbursts are beginning to resemble the movie Groundhog Day, which makes the date of this post most appropriate.

 

16 thoughts on “The Past Two (Boring) Weeks in Confederate Heritage: February 2, 2015

  1. Stefan Jovanovich February 2, 2015 / 5:06 am

    Nothing says “Confederate Heritage” like a dog wrapped in a bandanna.

  2. The Lamp February 2, 2015 / 11:43 am

    Don’t forget, the girl on the horse with her butt on the con-flag is a League of the South member aka Southern Nationalist Network.

    I guess in their little fantasy world of a “southron nation” (which will never happen) their precious flag belongs between a horse’s ass and a *****’s ass.

  3. Leo February 3, 2015 / 8:37 am

    These idiots made it hard to be a Southerner!

    GAWD!

    • Leo February 3, 2015 / 10:30 am

      That should be “make” is hard to be southern.

      I should know better than to use my iphone for reading blogs.

  4. Pat Young February 9, 2015 / 8:02 pm

    I noticed that Ms. Chastain is claiming that Charlotesville apparently is not governed by locals because the mayor was born in Pakistan. Because the mayor is Pakistani, he is not, she insists, a Virginian.

    I thought that she was trying to dress up her racism recently, but I was wrong.

    BTW, when I commented on this on her site, she of course refused to post my comment.

    • Pat Young February 10, 2015 / 12:22 am

      Ms. Chastain saw my comment here and gave her usual indignant response claiming that I never submitted a comment to her blog. She implied that I don’t understand how to submit a comment to a blog. She also said that she was not a racist but had merely pointed out that the mayor was not a “native” Virginian. Nonsense. As I wrote in a follow-up comment (she will likely claim never to have received):

      “You need to read your own writing. You did not just write that the mayor was not a native Virginian.

      You wrote that the mayor and the others on the city council were “NOT VIRGINIANS”. Apparently an immigrant can never be a Virginian in your opinion, since the mayor has lived in the city, whose highest office he was elected to, for three decades. In the eyes of the State of Virginia, he is a Virginian. And the votes of the people of his city demonstrate that he is considered a local by the locals.

      And by the way, I know what a publish button looks like. “

      • Madison Hemings February 10, 2015 / 8:47 am

        So, by her logic and her own admission NOT a “native Floridian” (on said blog and her website bio) shouldn’t she remove herself from any kind of ongoing debates in Pensacola? STFU and keep her flag off the sidewalk and at home?

        Looking forward to seeing how she’ll twist on this one.

      • Mousy Tongue February 11, 2015 / 1:57 am

        This is a side topic, but in that post you’re talking about:

        Connie linked a viral video, which she bills as “I watched a few moments of that video, enough to know it contains information people who love this country need to know”!🙂

        It’s of some nitwit misunderstanding a high school assignment and thinking it’s some sort of subliminal Islamic extremist recruitment project. She’s not a high school student, nor a parent of anybody at the school, nor even a local. But she’s mad as heck!

        It’s a vocabulary-in-context assignment from a North Carolina state-adopted workbook (“Lesson 16, CONTEXT: Civilization, The Islamic World: A.D. 600-1300”), and it talks about the history and customs of Islam. It’s basic education.

        Here’s a news story about it:
        http://www.wncn.com/story/27671152/viral-video-alleges-pitt-co-high-school-promoting-islam

        which contains a message for our Connie:

        The Farmville Police Department also commented on the video Friday saying, “I want to let everyone know that I have seen the video post about Farmville Central High School and it is being looked into by the PCSO. The safety of your children is of the utmost importance to FCHS, the Farmville Police Department, and the PCSO. I would ask that instead of continuing to share the post and fueling the fire, that you allow those agencies involved to handle the situation.”

        Here’s the Pitt County Schools press release:
        http://media.graytvinc.com/documents/PCS+Statement.pdf

        Anyhow, we know Connie’s not very smart but I thought you might enjoy this insight from her!

        • Pat Young February 12, 2015 / 4:39 am

          The local police were investigating? They are looking into a school vocabulary list? That is how they are protecting thee “safety of your children.”

          • Mousy Tongue February 13, 2015 / 8:19 am

            I heard they consulted Dictionary.com.

            Perhaps the real issue was the enraged lady threatening to descend on town with her fuel and righteous fire. Maybe the sheriff can score some bulletproof vests out of the deal.

          • Mousy Tongue February 13, 2015 / 10:10 am

            The video qualifies as performance art, by the way. (And there’s no shortage of CAPSLOCK ISLAMOPHOBIA in the comments. Thanks, Connie.)

        • Mousy Tongue February 12, 2015 / 11:18 am

          What strikes me as especially interesting that is that Connie deliberately spreads propaganda without any actual interest in whether it is true. Why is that?

          Remember that FB-viral “President Obama: It Was You” essay she posted not too long ago? A propaganda tool, full of dishonesty, a convoluted way of saying the president is a dangerous Muslim. She must be getting a steady stream of this stuff.

          Her friend Gregory Kay of The First Freedom talked about this in a recent podcast interview. He talks about his use of propaganda, and about using Facebook to spread bogus memes as propaganda for Southern/white nationalism. He stresses that truth is not the point with this stuff. He says there’s a need to target kids in school for white nationalist recruitment, citing German nationalists in particular as a positive example, for their strategy of hanging around places where schoolkids hang out and giving them free CDs of white power music and free comic books that stress “our point of view.”

        • Mousy Tongue February 12, 2015 / 11:54 am

          What strikes me as especially interesting is that Connie deliberately spreads propaganda without any actual interest in whether it is true. Why is that?

          Remember that FB-viral “President Obama: It Was You” essay she posted not too long ago? A propaganda tool, full of dishonesty, a convoluted way of saying the president is a dangerous Muslim. She must be getting a steady stream of this stuff.

          Her friend Gregory Kay of The First Freedom talked about this in a recent podcast interview. He talks about his use of propaganda, and about using Facebook to spread bogus memes in order to propagandize for Southern/white nationalism. He stresses that truth is not the point with this stuff. He says there’s a need to target kids in school for white nationalist recruitment, citing German nationalists in particular as a positive example, for their strategy of hanging around places where schoolkids hang out and giving them free CDs of white power music and free comic books that stress “our point of view.”

  5. Mousy Tongue February 12, 2015 / 1:59 pm

    Meanwhile, Virginia Flaggers spokesperson Susan Hathaway remained silent about evidence that suggests that at best the Virginia Flaggers find warm supporters among white southern nationalists and white supremacists … and at worst that they are arm-in-arm. Draw your own conclusions.

    Kay also talks in the podcast about how white nationalism needs a multi-pronged approach, to include a political arm, a military arm, propagandists, psychologists, artists, marketing guys, etc. He cites Sinn Féin and the IRA as a positive example. As an LoS member, he may have been referring to the LoS’s employment of the Virginia Flaggers as a front, though he didn’t specifically mention clowns.

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