The Character of The Virginia Flaggers

While most Americans have been preoccupied with far more serious issues involving the future of this country, Connie Chastain has returned to blogging in yet another attempt to portray the Virginia Flaggers as victims. This time, it’s “character assassination,” although Chastain favors the wording “to character assassinate” for some odd reason.

There’s no doubt that the Virginia Flaggers are an amusing cast of characters in a reality show with more than enough guest appearances by white nationalists, white supremacists, racists, bigots, accused kidnappers, fans of child pornography, and the like. But it is hard to see them as people of character, given their associations. Why, for example, would people of character rent land from two avowed racists for planting flagpoles? Why would they engage in attempts to discredit their opponents through “anonymous” postings and campaigns that fizzle out once one hints that their sources is to be discovered within Flagger membership? Would people of character openly violate the very boycott they demand of a town’s businesses to make a point? Why would they obstruct an effort by officials to see whether a child was safe? And would people of character employ a shrill ugly bigot and racist as their webmaster and occasional spokesperson?

And that’s just for starters. People of character would denounce white nationalists and white supremacists, not embrace them, march alongside them, and defend their bigotry. People of character would distance themselves from disgusting individuals and sympathize with victims instead of trying to portray themselves as victims. People of character admit mistakes and renounce associations. Even now we hear how the Flaggers are going after a Confederate heritage advocate who thought it best to renounce any association with someone arrested on charges of trafficking in child pornography, as if to do so was a bad thing.

People of character wouldn’t do that.

The Virginia Flaggers, from their leader Susan Frise Hathaway through their webmaster Connie Chastain to their membership, find it impossible to be people of character. They are simply characters, and characters who bring shame, embarrassment, and humilitation upon their supposed cause of Confederate heritage, when in truth it’s all about self-promotion, selling things, getting in the media, and travelling on the rubber Confederate chicken circuit.

The notion of “character assassination” presumes that someone possesses character that is being targeted. Telling the truth about them and revealing them as frauds, liars, racists, bigots, hypocrites–you name it–is not character assassination. Nor is revealing when they have made fools of themselves.

Reading Connie Chastain rant about character is funny. That the Flaggers embrace her to do their “heavy hitting” (and lying) reminds us that not only are the Virginia Flaggers devoid of character, but that they also are a disgrace to the memory of the soldiers they pretend to honor. They are a lasting black mark on the face of Confederate heritage, which they mock with their antics and whining. So much for southern “honor.”

But as characters, they sure are funny.

25 thoughts on “The Character of The Virginia Flaggers

  1. Rob Baker July 10, 2016 / 4:37 pm

    I think the most daming aspect of the group’s character is their apathy towards racism. Sure, they make vague comments about their rejection of racism, but they are awkwardly silent towards those that support their mission yet promote white supremacy. So much so that racists willingly support them and consider themselves a part of the group. They are the Donald Trump of activism.

  2. Sandi Saunders July 10, 2016 / 4:41 pm

    Reading Connie Chastain is an exercise in abusing your brain that I cannot condone or recommend, even for the entertainment value that stupidity can offer. She and the flaggers are mainly an embarrassment to integrity, honesty and truth. Period. She shows up to make the South look worse and that is the extent of it.

    • Rob Baker July 10, 2016 / 5:02 pm

      She shows up to make the South look worse and that is the extent of it.

      You’d think she would use her role with the group as defender and blogger to criticize racists who join the ranks. Instead she apologizes for the group through deflection while she tap dances around an attack. It’s unfortunate – which is why, as you say, “the South look[s] worse.”

  3. OhioGuy July 10, 2016 / 7:54 pm

    “The Virginia Flaggers, from their leader Susan Frise Hathaway through their webmaster Connie Chastain to their membership, find it impossible to be people of character. They are simply characters …

    Summed it up pretty well, Brooks.

    In response to the Trump comparison made by another poster. I think you do Trump, who is a complete a-hole, a disservice. By comparison he looks like the Reaissance man. And, that’s saying less about Trump than about these characters.😉

  4. bob carey July 11, 2016 / 1:07 am

    What bothers me about the Flaggers and their ilk is the total lack of conviction in their beliefs.
    They stage a boycott of Lexington Va. businesses right up until lunch time.
    They endorse Trump, even though Trump supported Gov. Haley’s removal of the CBF in Columbia. If they had any conviction they would denounce Trump as loudly as they denounced Haley, but they do not. Is this because Trump speaks their language in some of his reactionary statements?

    As for Ms. Hathaway, she should stop invoking Christianity into every one of her Facebook post. I might be going out on a limb here, but I don’t think Christ would have supported the Confederate cause.

    • OhioGuy July 11, 2016 / 7:19 pm

      Excellent point about Trump’s support for removing the CBF from the SC Statehouse grounds. While Trump is an idiot in his own right, it’s not accurate to portray him as being as depraved as some of these heritage groups. The truth is somewhat more nuisanced than that. Their support for Trump doesn’t make Trump a closet white supremacist; just as the support of the New Black Panther Party for Obama wouldn’t make him a black supremacist.

      • Kristoffer July 13, 2016 / 6:50 am

        Excellent point. It is the same point I made when I used the example of John Sack as an example of why guilt by association doesn’t automatically work.

      • bob carey July 13, 2016 / 8:44 am

        I didn’t mean to infer that Trump is a white supremacist. I was attempting to make the point that the Flaggers are not about their “beloved flag” at all. They are all about the extreme right wing
        politics of building walls and birthers and they are exploiting Trump to try to get some legitimacy for their more radical views.
        I don’t think Trump is an idiot he is just con-man opportunist, which makes him far more dangerous.

  5. James F. Epperson July 11, 2016 / 6:07 pm

    “The Character of The Virginia Flaggers” = the definition of oxymoron.

  6. Shoshana Bee July 11, 2016 / 11:30 pm

    I was really stumped on this one: Character & Flaggers – reminds me of Sweet & Sour sauce.

    It occurred to me tonight that the only way that I could understand any sort of thought process on this group is by metaphor, and b’gawd the perfect standard came to mind: a pachinko game! The air hockey machine was broken, so out of desperation, a friend and I started messing around with this little machine that can send dozens of little metal balls randomly bouncing at cockeyed angles. Perfect image of Susan’s & Connie’s misfiring neurons. Of course these people have no character, as this would require forethought and hindsight, and with those little metal balls rattling around in their heads, they don’t know what they are thinking minute to minute. Imagine: every day is a new slate: no conscience, no compass.

    I was cautioned not to bet on this little pachinko contraption, because more often than not: they are rigged to lose. Losers — sounds about right.

  7. Kristoffer July 13, 2016 / 6:51 am

    I’m coming in a bit late, but let me say: what a bunch of scumbags the Flaggers have turned out to be.

  8. M. E. Martin July 15, 2016 / 7:37 am

    Lack of character from the very start. Here’s an entertaining flashback.

    It began with Susie’s LIE that old veterans placed battle flags on the portico of the soldiers’ home chapel in Richmond when it opened in 1887. (She changed the wording and denies it now – but you can read her first appeal here: http://shnvalerts.blogspot.com/2011/10/virginia-belle-needs-help.html –scroll down to find her self-aggrandizing description of her chapel stance). You’ll see her other oft-repeated whopper that U.S. Grant approved of said flags (poor guy long dead by the time the building opened). Facts and history always difficult for her.

    And now, 5 years later, she drums up business for her neo-confed speaking tour around the south based on such nonsense, while a tired little band of gullible followers hang out and harass pedestrians at the Richmond museum and pose for weekly facebook pictures. All appear incapable of grasping their complete failure there: Hathaway abandoned them years back (we all know why), and because of their tedious and sometimes aggressive presence, the state of Va. is even more determined that no CBFs will ever fly on the chapel exterior (where they never flew until an SCV lease in 1990s). In fact, because of the flaggers, Lee-Jackson SCV Camp lost their lease entirely.

    Today, at the birthplace of Va. flaggers in Richmond, this pathetic bunch has no influence and frankly, except for the issue of their bothering poor passersby, few care if they waste their lives sweating or freezing on the sidewalk. It still won’t make a difference. Well, except more of the same photos posted repeatedly on social media. And for giving Susie ongoing support in her quest for notoriety and speaking gigs.

  9. Ha, ha, ha, most of the air coming out of the body of Brooks D. Simpson can be categorized in one of two ways.
    .
    1. if it can be captured, it may have a use as a component of Methane gas.

    2. Same as #1, as it is Bullshit.

    I might also add that this also applies to the others who are aligned with the Marxists left wing Yankee supporting Liberals and Liars, which are one and the same. You scum turds dishonor your family name with your dishonest statements, statements that either you know are not true, or you are too stupid and low life to care. Either way, screw all of you, foremost, Brooks Simpson, and equally as such for the low life Rob Baker, what a joke, and as I know not the others, thank goodness, all of you left wing Obama faggot lovemaking, transgender supporting nasty dishonest people, continue to obviously be unhappy about the FACT THAT NEW LARGE CONFEDERATE FLAGS ARE BEING RAISED EVERY WEEK. Yet you scum suckers said, starting with similar scummer Keven Lavine, NO CONFEDERATE FLAG WILL BE RAISED ALONG THE INTERSTATE NEAR RICHMOND, WELL BOYS, OR GIRLS WANNA B’s, the flags are flying in the breeze, and I for one LOVE THEM, WARMS MY SOUTHERN HEART THANK GOD, oop’s, don’t let me use any Christian related words or old Baker will get confused and change boyfriends on me.

    So, The Virginia Flaggers are doing very well thank you very much, as well as a number of other flagger groups and similar orgs. And Rotten Barry Obama and his large group of anti- white racists and faggots will soon have to find another tit to suckle from as their days are running out, and the same for Hillary. Great day’s are ahead boy’s.

    • Brooks D. Simpson July 16, 2016 / 9:58 pm

      Why, Jerry, thanks for reading. You continue to represent what is at the core of the Confederate heritage beliefs embodied by the Virginia Flaggers in a most memorable and articulate fashion. It is just such tolerance of diversity that makes the Flaggers what they are (ask Connie Chastain). I’m sure the Flaggers warmly welcome your support.

      As for the flags, I’m beginning to think they suggest that the Flaggers have been reduced to such measures because they’ve been unable to do anything else. You need to help them turn this around.

      • bob carey July 17, 2016 / 11:47 am

        Dr. Simpson,
        It is always enjoyable to read an articulate well written response to your point of view. LOL
        Jerry would make a great speech writer for the Trump campaign.

    • Derek July 17, 2016 / 11:10 am

      I keep trying to remember to look for those flags every time I drive down I-95 and I forget. They are so obvious that I don’t notice them nor does anyone else in the car. Maybe if at night you had some type of spotlight or something.

      • Brooks D. Simpson July 17, 2016 / 11:44 am

        I understand that the Virginia Flaggers and their supporters think that every time they raise a flag that I feel angry or unhappy. Actually, all they do is to give me more ammunition. I want to see them raise as many flags as they can, and it warms my heart to know that every time they do so, they are thinking about me. Talk about living rent-free in so many heads … and a reminder that it’s not about honoring the Confederate soldier, but about drawing attention to themselves and trying to annoy others. That’s what Confederate heritage has become. Restore the honor … repudiate the Flaggers

        • Jimmy Dick July 17, 2016 / 1:27 pm

          What they are actually doing is causing people to ask questions. The problem for the flaggers is they don’t have any facts to support their answers while historians have plenty of them and offer to show them. The result is a lot of people learning about the Civil War from the actual facts. This is directly due to the ignorance of the neo-confederates.

          Furthermore, the flaggers attract a group of people to their side that quite frankly they can keep. Conspiracy junkies, child molesters, kidnappers, racists, bigots, people who are anti-intellectual, and people are fanatical in their ability to refuse to learn when it conflicts with what they desperately want to believe.

          So let them keep raising those flags. They are helping us to educate more people about the Civil War.

    • Sandi Saunders July 17, 2016 / 4:21 pm

      The anonymous name-calling, hate-filled, and deliberately ignorant flaggers always make the South look bad. That is not honor, that is just plain sad.

    • Scott Ledridge July 18, 2016 / 11:14 pm

      “don’t let me use any Christian related words” – I believe you’re in the clear on that one, Jerry. There was nothing “Christian” about that rant.

      • HankC July 21, 2016 / 8:57 am

        I doubt he attends a Christian church as he hasn’t yet found one that teaches the truth.

  10. OhioGuy July 17, 2016 / 11:45 am

    Jerry characterizes all anti-flaggers as “left wing Obama faggot lovemaking, transgender supporting nasty dishonest people . . .” For the record, I’m proudly anti-flagger, but I don’t support the use of public gender-specific bathrooms by members of the opposite biological sex, I don’t support government sanctioned same-sex marriage, and I don’t support Donald Trump. I’m a member of the local GOP Central Committee. So, sorry that I don’t fit neatly into your little Yankee-as-Marxist box. I think that there are many others on this board who don’t fit your stereotypes either. And, just so you understand, the historical record is clear, your Confederate ancestors were fighting to continue a society based on human bondage and the concept of the inferiority of the black race. This is isn’t dependent on whether or not your direct ancestors actually owned any slaves; the South at that time had a society that was dependent on slavery. Supporting the South was supporting slavery. Please take a close look at the founding documents of the CSA, not at the after-the-fact rationalizations that filled many an ex-Confederate’s post-war musings. Oh, and, by the way, though I disown most of your characterizations of members of this board, I may indeed be nasty. I was told once by a student that I was the nasty professor he ever had. Another student, in the same class, said the other student thought I was nasty because I made him think. Some people, it appears, really don’t like to engage in that kind of behavior.😉

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