This complicates life for some folks, doesn’t it?
Someone in Pensacola asks: “What has the League done or said to indicate they are a hate group?”
Really? REALLY?
Sounds like Connie Chastain, doesn’t it?
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Crossroads 
Just more proof from their own mouths that they are racist and anti-american scum who lie about history to advance their fantasies.
Yup, Jimmy, that about sums it up…and the VA Flaggers are all buddy/buddies with them…
Yeah that’s fn Hogwash! Real Refuse from Hogs. Pure Swill.
Confederate flag was for men and women who fought, not to be misconstrued.
Don’t speak for Va
Thanks
Despicable people. But, at least they’re honest about their true feelings.
“Southern nationalist movement”. And there it is.
Funny how these racists who back up their hatred with “biology” don’t actually have any degrees in biology.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4qBBKf-obQM
What a douche bag. He clearly has no concept of the difference between race and culture. And, it’s also clear he doesn’t want to know, because it would upset his little-minded racist theory. He also doesn’t pass muster as a biblical scholar or he’d know that the slavery that is spoken of in the New Testament was benign compared to that practiced by his ancestors. Some scholars have said it was more like indentured servitude in Colonial America. Unlike in the U.S. South there were laws regulating it and imposing limits on what a master could do. His slavety is more like the Egyptian slavery that the Jews suffered under in the Old Testament. It short, he’s a complete idiot and a racist of the worst sort.
Christ almighty, it was like I was reading the C.S. Secession Convention speeches from 1861.
From Mike Sable at the League:
“Heritage Not Hate” is the effeminate, limp-wristed, apologetic battle cry of Rainbow Confederates designed to inform the recipient of his message that he is not a “racist”. Pathetic.
The League actually knows the history of the Confederacy far better than most of the pro-flag and pro-Confederate crowd. They readily acknowledge the racial issues which were the issues of the mid-19th century, and readily support them today. Both approaches, which at least are honest (especially the former), send the average “heritage not hate” chest thumper into a twisting and spinning frenzy.
Funny thing is, these “subhumans” that these Lost Causer twits speak of joined the USCT and managed to defeat the Confederacy on the battlefield and force their surrender.
He is also the kind of bigot governor Brysnt is pandering to. I’m both horrified and embarrassed by our governor.
How sad to be stuck stamping your foot like an overwrought child and demanding upkeep of limitations during this already limited time we have to be alive and experiencing everything we can reach.
I’ll let this speak for itself.
Paul Joseph Goebbels would be proud.
Racist statements without sources or citations. Got to love it!
One of the biggest myths being told about the Mississippi flag by the heritage crowd is the legislature wanted to honor confederate veterans in 1894, so they created the current flag as a way of doing so. However, if you look at the 1894 law creating the flag, you will not find these veterans or the confederacy mentioned at all. In fact, the wording is so vague it is obvious they were attempting to hide the battle flag in law. It is also important to note that this flag was created after the end of reconstruction when the conservative Democrats and Redeemers secured total power in the state from the Republicans and Freedmen.
The 1894 Mississippi flag marks the first time the Confederate battle flag was used off the battlefield as a symbol of white political power. This flag is designed to send a message and it’s not a message of honor.
§ 3-3-16. Design of state flag.
The official flag of the State of Mississippi shall have the following design: with width two-thirds (2/3) of its length; with the union (canton) to be square, in width two-thirds (2/3) of the width of the flag; the ground of the union to be red and a broad blue saltier thereon, bordered with white and emblazoned with thirteen (13) mullets or five-pointed stars, corresponding with the number of the original States of the Union; the field to be divided into three (3) bars of equal width, the upper one blue, the center one white, and the lower one, extending the whole length of the flag, red (the national colors); this being the flag adopted by the Mississippi Legislature in the 1894 Special Session.
I’d also like to note that the flag was adopted 4 years after the adoption of the 1890 constitution, which pretty much disenfranchised black Mississippians and a few years after the Democrats took control of the state. No coincidence there.
It’s no surprise that many state flags based off C.S. designs were adopted during the Jim Crow era, after the segregationist Democrats took control of the states from the Republicans.
That is very true and another little known fact about race in Mississippi history.
There is a direct and unbroken line connecting a history of racial bigotry in Mississippi to our flag, state constitution, and litany of spineless political leadership that seeks to keep the population divided. What Phil Bryant is doing follows perfectly the shortsighted path walked by the likes of Bilbo and Barnett. Phil Bryant even tossed his gay son under the preverbal bus to score political points with the religious right. He is a shameful and despicable man.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101693062
More below on “Philbo” Bryant.
http://gaycitynews.nyc/new-york-mississippi-governor-confronted-anti-gay-law/
I’d also like to note that the 1890 constitution (which replaced the superior 1868 constitution) is still in effect today. You can read the superior 1868 constitution here: http://mshistory.k12.ms.us/articles/98/index.php?s=extra&id=269
That is very true and another little known fact about race in Mississippi history.
There is a direct and unbroken line connecting a history of racial bigotry in Mississippi to our flag, state constitution, and litany of spineless political leadership that seeks to keep the population divided. What Phil Bryant is doing follows perfectly the shortsighted path walked by the likes of Bilbo and Barnett. Phil Bryant even tossed his gay son under the preverbal bus to score political points with the religious right. He is a shameful and despicable man.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101693062
Heh, I didn’t know Alexander Stephens and Henry Benning were active on the internet. At least they’re honest about their racism, I’ll give them that.
Finally some southrons are being honest and are clearly offended by the wishy-washing, kindergarden, adapted-to-present-sensitivies version of the Confederacy many of its defenders have been trying to sell to the public.
Michael Hill’s posts are not surprising. Ethnic chauvinism and superiority complex have been part of southern identity for centuries and still exists today in the mind of many of them (it would be unfair that all or even the majority of white southerners share these views). On their rant against equality I reassure myself by reminding these people that the contribution of the South to nation-building has on average been very low compare to their arch-enemies of the North. Here’s an excerpt from Kelly Miller’s open letter to Thomas Dixon (1905): “According to a study of the distribution of ability in the United States by Hon. Henry Cabot Lodge., the little State of Massachussetts has produced more men of distinction and achievement than all the South combined. ‘In architecture, agriculture, manufacture, finance, legislation, sculpture, religion, organization, painting, music, literature, science, the wedding of the fine arts to religion’, the South is relatively backward as compared with other sections of the country”.
Even today with the controversy surrounding the Confederate flag and its “heritage not hate” motto it’s still backwards when it comes to historical realism.
I wonder how these guys explain to themselves how they lost the war to a bunch of “subhumans”, despite their being “superior”. Funnily, those who claim to be the “master race” coincidentally are always the ones who end up losing. The Confederacy and “The White Man”, Nazi Germany and “The Aryan Herrenvolk”, Imperial Japan and the “Yamato race”, etc…
Indeed
Erratum: “it would be unfair *TO CLAIM* that all or even the majority of white southerners share these views
Though, I could easily picture an apologist saying: “They don’t hate blacks, they just think they are inferior and subhuman!”